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Re: Program Translation - Nov. 14, 2013

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Date Sun, 17 Nov 2013 12:29:30 -0500
Subject Re: Program Translation - Nov. 14, 2013
From Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com>
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On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Richard Maine <nospam@see.signature> wrote:
> Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <bes9a5Ffm6dU1@mid.individual.net>,
>>  Tim Prince <tprince@computer.org> wrote:
>>
>> > Perhaps you would start with an automatic indentation tool before
>> > translating.  You may have a rule against using current syntax and
>> > indentation for Fortran, but others don't.
>>
>> Does anybody still use ratfor?
>
> No. Well, I suppose it is possible you might find a soul or two
> somewhere, but you'd have to look prety hard. Ratfor became essentially
> obsolete with Fortran 77.
>
> --
> Richard Maine
> email: last name at domain . net
> domain: summer-triangle
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> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

This thread is bizarre.  Its been over 20 years since I have heard the
term 'freeware'.  The OP first seems to suggest that he wants to
translate this code to python or some other language.  He then points
out that the guy they have doing the re-write will only write it in
True BASIC.  I'm not seeing how this has anything to do with python,
except that there was mention that it wouldn't be fast enough.  Is
True BASIC fast?

That being said, I'm guessing that this thing is used in some academic
setting.  If that's true, why not get a student (who will be much more
versed in modern programming languages and techniques) to document and
rewrite the code.  When you start off with the requirement that the
new code will be True BASIC you may find that it serves your purposes,
but over time no one will know what to make of the code since no one
learns BASIC (or FORTRAN) anymore I don't think

-- 
Joel Goldstick
http://joelgoldstick.com

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    Re: Program Translation - Nov. 14, 2013 Gordon Sande <Gordon.Sande@gmail.com> - 2013-11-14 13:36 -0400
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    Re: Program Translation - Nov. 14, 2013 Jürgen Exner <jurgenex@hotmail.com> - 2013-11-17 09:02 -0800
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        Re: Program Translation - Nov. 14, 2013 "E.D.G." <edgrsprj@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-11-17 08:37 -0600
          Re: Program Translation - Nov. 14, 2013 Henry Law <news@lawshouse.org> - 2013-11-17 14:42 +0000
            Re: Program Translation - Nov. 14, 2013 Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-11-17 10:20 -0500
              Re: Program Translation - Nov. 14, 2013 Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-11-18 02:28 +1100
              Re: Program Translation - Nov. 14, 2013 "E.D.G." <edgrsprj@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-11-17 10:25 -0600
                Re: Program Translation - Nov. 14, 2013 Tim Prince <tprince@computer.org> - 2013-11-17 08:30 -0800
                Re: Program Translation - Nov. 14, 2013 Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-11-17 11:43 -0500
                Re: Program Translation - Nov. 14, 2013 nospam@see.signature (Richard Maine) - 2013-11-17 09:05 -0800
                Re: Program Translation - Nov. 14, 2013 Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2013-11-17 12:29 -0500
                Re: Program Translation - Nov. 14, 2013 "E.D.G." <edgrsprj@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-11-18 11:30 -0600
              Re: Program Translation - Nov. 14, 2013 Rainer Weikusat <rweikusat@mobileactivedefense.com> - 2013-11-17 18:59 +0000
          Re: Program Translation - Nov. 14, 2013 "James Van Buskirk" <not_valid@comcast.net> - 2013-11-17 09:05 -0700
        Re: Program Translation - Nov. 14, 2013 Charlton Wilbur <cwilbur@chromatico.net> - 2013-11-17 23:22 -0500
      Re: Program Translation - Nov. 14, 2013 "E.D.G." <edgrsprj@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-11-17 10:17 -0600
        Re: Program Translation - Nov. 14, 2013 "E.D.G." <edgrsprj@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-11-17 12:07 -0600
      Re: Program Translation - Nov. 14, 2013 Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2013-11-17 22:28 -0500
        Re: Program Translation - Nov. 14, 2013 "E.D.G." <edgrsprj@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-11-18 11:15 -0600
          Re: Program Translation - Nov. 14, 2013 Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2013-11-18 12:35 -0500
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        Re: Several Topics - Nov. 19, 2013 glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-11-19 20:51 +0000
          Re: Several Topics - Nov. 19, 2013 Yaşar Arabacı <yasar11732@gmail.com> - 2013-11-19 23:31 +0200
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              Re: Several Topics - Nov. 19, 2013 Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-11-20 10:01 +1100
              Re: Several Topics - Nov. 19, 2013 gamo <gamo@telecable.es> - 2013-11-20 21:48 +0100
  Re: Program Translation - Nov. 14, 2013 "Terence" <tbwright@bigpond.net.au> - 2013-11-16 20:31 +1100
    Re: Program Translation - Nov. 14, 2013 William Ray Wing <wrw@mac.com> - 2013-11-16 09:00 -0500

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