Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.mixmin.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.006 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'python,': 0.02; 'essentially': 0.04; 'syntax': 0.04; 'true,': 0.05; 'suppose': 0.07; 'obsolete': 0.09; 'rewrite': 0.09; 'translate': 0.10; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'python': 0.11; 'suggest': 0.14; 'language.': 0.14; 'thread': 0.14; "wouldn't": 0.14; 'basic.': 0.16; 'enough.': 0.16; 'guessing': 0.16; 'learns': 0.16; 'roy': 0.16; 'versed': 0.16; 'student': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'code.': 0.18; 'seems': 0.21; 'programming': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; '(or': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'academic': 0.26; 'mention': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'points': 0.29; 'tim': 0.29; 'said,': 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'url:mailman': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'indentation': 0.31; 'languages': 0.32; 'url:python': 0.33; 'basic': 0.35; 'except': 0.35; 'tool': 0.35; 'anybody': 0.35; 'requirement': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'url:listinfo': 0.36; 'doing': 0.36; 'possible': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'two': 0.37; 'being': 0.38; 'nov': 0.38; 'richard': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'anything': 0.39; 'does': 0.39; 'heard': 0.39; 'url:mail': 0.40; 'how': 0.40; 'guy': 0.60; 'new': 0.61; 'no.': 0.61; 'first': 0.61; 'name': 0.63; 'term': 0.63; 'became': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'subject:. ': 0.67; 'smith': 0.68; 'soul': 0.74; 'article': 0.77; 'fast?': 0.84; 'hard.': 0.84; 'joel': 0.91; 'to:none': 0.92; 'subject:2013': 0.95; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=IKgjSk4J64Zg0M0HBOmbGaoXRewWGxWZWEPTQWT9mMU=; b=tqE9zt+CoFeB0hiHIjGfImI0BsQnN6YyziI7hyQDJsJKHXnz7S0AFEWOTaZGHCGaBg OGDJZu5bETWAyFUb+KLWsJQ8gqDnCDAaQCaI9BWZPIMFFa1avgn/UNinX3Pd5sGtpMHV 6Hik5XmOC2WM1D1I9RV7q7Q+ZG1bOGEYgy+Ovse9cWWxo4h3dqXNXVJrUpxr/IAuHtHm Q+Rb6aECMCmh/pn01bgf+1hRV3A1xpEE7yRcrXYKRu0eHyIfHc2OgV2EBRAwaCZZlaJD EFeT74FgSf2wcVh1sUPPDzhvU/pl74koHAECeY6ETLsjFiZOzTdeePMf8p7MpLccQEPQ W3+w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.58.23.33 with SMTP id j1mr60045vef.27.1384709370878; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 09:29:30 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1lch2h3.6ef81xmjiepuN%nospam@see.signature> References: <0.444ab0f1470c9d9a7a89.20131117124526GMT.87li0nqjrt.fsf@bsb.me.uk> <1lch2h3.6ef81xmjiepuN%nospam@see.signature> Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2013 12:29:30 -0500 Subject: Re: Program Translation - Nov. 14, 2013 From: Joel Goldstick Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 42 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1384709379 news.xs4all.nl 15902 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:42207 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:59772 On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Richard Maine wrote: > Roy Smith wrote: > >> In article , >> Tim Prince wrote: >> >> > Perhaps you would start with an automatic indentation tool before >> > translating. You may have a rule against using current syntax and >> > indentation for Fortran, but others don't. >> >> Does anybody still use ratfor? > > No. Well, I suppose it is possible you might find a soul or two > somewhere, but you'd have to look prety hard. Ratfor became essentially > obsolete with Fortran 77. > > -- > Richard Maine > email: last name at domain . net > domain: summer-triangle > -- > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list This thread is bizarre. Its been over 20 years since I have heard the term 'freeware'. The OP first seems to suggest that he wants to translate this code to python or some other language. He then points out that the guy they have doing the re-write will only write it in True BASIC. I'm not seeing how this has anything to do with python, except that there was mention that it wouldn't be fast enough. Is True BASIC fast? That being said, I'm guessing that this thing is used in some academic setting. If that's true, why not get a student (who will be much more versed in modern programming languages and techniques) to document and rewrite the code. When you start off with the requirement that the new code will be True BASIC you may find that it serves your purposes, but over time no one will know what to make of the code since no one learns BASIC (or FORTRAN) anymore I don't think -- Joel Goldstick http://joelgoldstick.com