Re: Program Translation - Nov. 14, 2013

From	Rainer Weikusat <rweikusat@mobileactivedefense.com>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.fortran, comp.lang.perl.misc, comp.lang.python
Subject	Re: Program Translation - Nov. 14, 2013
Date	2013-11-17 18:59 +0000
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Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> writes:
>  Henry Law <news@lawshouse.org> wrote:
>
>> On 17/11/13 14:37, E.D.G. wrote:
>> > All of my own important programs are written using Perl.  I am starting
>> > to run into calculation speed limitations with one of the programs.
>> 
>> Your Perl code is, er, sub-optimal.  There is absolutely no point in 
>> doing benchmarks until you've improved the code.
>
> Having spent many years in science (molecular biology), I disagree with 
> this sentiment.
>
> Scientists view computer programs as tools, no different from any other 
> piece of lab equipment or instrumentation they use.  When picking a tool 
> to use, it's perfectly reasonable to evaluate what performance you can 
> get out of that without having to be an expert in its use.  If I'm using 
> a spectrophotometer, there may be many things that instrument is capable 
> of doing, but as long as I'm getting the data I need from it, it's 
> serving my purpose.  My goal is to do science, not to be an expert on 
> optics, or electronics, or data processing.
>
> The same goes for programming languages.

Indeed it does. So, while your comfortable with BUYING spectrophotometers
built by people who know how to do that, why on earth do you insist on
hacking your own 'Rocky Horror Picture Show' crap code together to
evaluate the data INSTEAD of concentrating on 'the science'?

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Program Translation - Nov. 14, 2013 "E.D.G." <edgrsprj@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-11-14 08:18 -0600
  Re: Program Translation - Nov. 14, 2013 mecej4 <mecej4_nospam@operamail.com> - 2013-11-14 11:07 -0600
    Re: Program Translation - Nov. 14, 2013 Gordon Sande <Gordon.Sande@gmail.com> - 2013-11-14 13:36 -0400
      Re: Program Translation - Nov. 14, 2013 Clive Page <usenet@page2.eu> - 2013-11-15 11:46 +0000
    Re: Program Translation - Nov. 14, 2013 Jürgen Exner <jurgenex@hotmail.com> - 2013-11-17 09:02 -0800
  Re: Program Translation - Nov. 14, 2013 "E.D.G." <edgrsprj@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-11-15 07:51 -0600
    Re: Program Translation - Nov. 14, 2013 "E.D.G." <edgrsprj@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-11-17 04:25 -0600
      Re: Program Translation - Nov. 14, 2013 Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2013-11-17 12:45 +0000
        Re: Program Translation - Nov. 14, 2013 "E.D.G." <edgrsprj@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-11-17 08:37 -0600
          Re: Program Translation - Nov. 14, 2013 Henry Law <news@lawshouse.org> - 2013-11-17 14:42 +0000
            Re: Program Translation - Nov. 14, 2013 Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-11-17 10:20 -0500
              Re: Program Translation - Nov. 14, 2013 Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-11-18 02:28 +1100
              Re: Program Translation - Nov. 14, 2013 "E.D.G." <edgrsprj@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-11-17 10:25 -0600
                Re: Program Translation - Nov. 14, 2013 Tim Prince <tprince@computer.org> - 2013-11-17 08:30 -0800
                Re: Program Translation - Nov. 14, 2013 Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-11-17 11:43 -0500
                Re: Program Translation - Nov. 14, 2013 nospam@see.signature (Richard Maine) - 2013-11-17 09:05 -0800
                Re: Program Translation - Nov. 14, 2013 Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2013-11-17 12:29 -0500
                Re: Program Translation - Nov. 14, 2013 "E.D.G." <edgrsprj@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-11-18 11:30 -0600
              Re: Program Translation - Nov. 14, 2013 Rainer Weikusat <rweikusat@mobileactivedefense.com> - 2013-11-17 18:59 +0000
          Re: Program Translation - Nov. 14, 2013 "James Van Buskirk" <not_valid@comcast.net> - 2013-11-17 09:05 -0700
        Re: Program Translation - Nov. 14, 2013 Charlton Wilbur <cwilbur@chromatico.net> - 2013-11-17 23:22 -0500
      Re: Program Translation - Nov. 14, 2013 "E.D.G." <edgrsprj@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-11-17 10:17 -0600
        Re: Program Translation - Nov. 14, 2013 "E.D.G." <edgrsprj@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-11-17 12:07 -0600
      Re: Program Translation - Nov. 14, 2013 Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2013-11-17 22:28 -0500
        Re: Program Translation - Nov. 14, 2013 "E.D.G." <edgrsprj@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-11-18 11:15 -0600
          Re: Program Translation - Nov. 14, 2013 Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2013-11-18 12:35 -0500
      Several Topics - Nov. 19, 2013 "E.D.G." <edgrsprj@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-11-19 05:26 -0600
        Re: Several Topics - Nov. 19, 2013 glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-11-19 20:51 +0000
          Re: Several Topics - Nov. 19, 2013 Yaşar Arabacı <yasar11732@gmail.com> - 2013-11-19 23:31 +0200
          Re: Several Topics - Nov. 19, 2013 Rainer Weikusat <rweikusat@mobileactivedefense.com> - 2013-11-19 21:35 +0000
            Re: Several Topics - Nov. 19, 2013 glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-11-19 22:43 +0000
              Re: Several Topics - Nov. 19, 2013 Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-11-20 10:01 +1100
              Re: Several Topics - Nov. 19, 2013 gamo <gamo@telecable.es> - 2013-11-20 21:48 +0100
  Re: Program Translation - Nov. 14, 2013 "Terence" <tbwright@bigpond.net.au> - 2013-11-16 20:31 +1100
    Re: Program Translation - Nov. 14, 2013 William Ray Wing <wrw@mac.com> - 2013-11-16 09:00 -0500

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