Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Chris Angelico Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 23:08:24 +1100 Lines: 47 Message-ID: References: <17785955.P1rOlOtRcj@PointedEars.de> <56E89D6B.7070705@lucidity.plus.com> <56E8A947.40703@lucidity.plus.com> <0966AF1B-D0D9-4AA9-9713-F3FE041B3386@vmesel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de G5kvnI59oJagLdICr/FW7gOjt2L1UgaEio0C+UzDTlrg== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.023 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.95; '*S*': 0.00; '16,': 0.03; 'guys.': 0.09; 'paragraph,': 0.09; 'wed,': 0.15; 'thu,': 0.15; '2016': 0.16; "computer's": 0.16; 'erik': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'list)': 0.16; 'losing': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'subject:URL': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; '>>>': 0.20; 'to:name:python-list@python.org': 0.20; 'trying': 0.22; 'am,': 0.23; 'thus': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.24; "doesn't": 0.26; 'chris': 0.26; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; '(such': 0.27; 'idea': 0.28; 'are:': 0.32; 'maybe': 0.33; 'problem': 0.33; "he's": 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'could': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'should': 0.36; 'project': 0.36; 'received:209.85': 0.36; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'really': 0.37; 'say': 0.37; 'received:209.85.213': 0.37; 'thought': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.38; 'someone': 0.38; 'subject:-': 0.39; 'rather': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'still': 0.40; 'some': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'bring': 0.62; 'back': 0.62; 'mar': 0.65; "they're": 0.66; 'money': 0.71; '10:32': 0.84; 'away".': 0.84; 'chrisa': 0.84; 'completely,': 0.84; 'vulnerable': 0.84 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=El3mvtoinQISnb9Ix1iXSdFBuzph2q+UhbCOMaajdhk=; b=c+IaqumOiBpaoPDhjIaU5reTgdLM1PBHju4IARrz95Hh2v+SgbmOylXZoY43g3k4fe urpyqnJQ4bYuwo8Sy8iGW3uBz/2kALkk4RPWIcDwnRZbdH25Aq8nunSTVMDsmYmTFFPt QRCTC8P6bVuVw2wvHIkcqjxgEzD3AiymfhQH4QmAAELmnj0Xsvv479S++tEdWswa8J7L bb01Ojff3jQs8DeTBGOEC+c6WG00VGs7mPLveRfxMKe7UQiPQmZZ3maq4ijAGuDHcyxC +1F7IJ0u3g0Cdi9AWs5azS/gEtdydK8bSaI/bPxuY35XzUNpTZWXaKQIk+y5zjP1r+On 4rpw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=El3mvtoinQISnb9Ix1iXSdFBuzph2q+UhbCOMaajdhk=; b=d6G9nHSBPbXwvaTm1PPbhEK7kKCUB1IauFL9qP64bMsxypER0XfOEvW2ph9TC7iUUt 1XYJhsSl/jOR9XhlDshsPlgkoGqrG0MSMCuSjky873J4JCHx7uyqkg9OX1jKExTD3TaC 1yEis1zatCGcUbXvAGfdtCPaTxekPqG/DPxLqKtIU2dai26Nbk6g2Zc/oLFN+EX1+5Te NirRJVSceWMste2FE3THmGL7jw+ARgv/NFgH+9GyRsnL5E2mcu+OeTK3LQSnN9oJKJtj iX1L7OiyrCNRy/C5Lm5b8uiOzMq0eBzbFs4jO7fcIaaWHbQT9Tcea/VfZGu6C3uIu8Id snkg== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJLhUwV0h1yTwbUUqFXRwWexPRjqJLTC8FDIARvbhmLCgHN7YacI4Ft6zWtpXOCG/BX4mQItVuWKrbOrVg== X-Received: by 10.50.43.226 with SMTP id z2mr7142943igl.94.1458216504129; Thu, 17 Mar 2016 05:08:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <0966AF1B-D0D9-4AA9-9713-F3FE041B3386@vmesel.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:105088 (Bouncing back to the list) On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 10:32 PM, Vinicius wrote: > Sorry for my bad English guys. Your English is fine. Don't stress about it. :) >> Em 15 de mar de 2016, =C3=A0s 9:34 PM, Chris Angelico = escreveu: >> >>> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Erik wrote= : >>> >>>> I often like to make a small >>>> change when I reimplement, though - something that I thought was >>>> ill-designed in the original, >>> >>> >>> OK, so maybe the idea for Vinicius (if he's still reading) to pursue is= that >>> it should be something that can be used as the basis for a URL shorteni= ng >>> "service" that is distributed and can NOT go away (think DNS). That is = what >>> some people don't like about the URL shorteners, so maybe that's an itc= h >>> that he might want to scratch. > > So I really don't see what you were trying to say with this paragraph, th= e part of "that is distributed and can NOT go away". You think that the pro= ject could be distributed with a range of people and get them all syncroniz= ed? > The problems with URL shorteners are: 1) They are centralized, and thus vulnerable to outages 2) They might be taken down completely, particularly if they're losing money for someone So you would need to come up with a system that's distributed (such that one computer's inaccessibility doesn't bring everything down) and permanent (keep on circulating that information!). It could be a rather fun problem to tackle. ChrisA