Re: find all multiplicands and multipliers for a number

From	Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu>
Subject	Re: find all multiplicands and multipliers for a number
Date	2015-04-11 19:58 -0400
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On 4/11/2015 5:10 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 3:52 AM, Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>> PS Note that you're being "wasteful" by multiplying c*c over and over
>>
>> Yeah this is a reasonable point, though most of the c's should fit in a
>> machine word, at least in my 64-bit system.  I think Python still
>> separates ints and longs in the implementation.
>
> I don't think it does.

In 3.0, the 2.x int class and intobject.c were removed and the long 
class was renamed int, while longobject.c remained, with code relevant 
to the int class removed. I believe longobject effectively represents 
ints in base 2**15 or 2**30 (or 31?) for 32 and 64 bit machines, so that 
products of 'digits' fit in a single machine word.  (I am not sure if 
the increased size for 64 bit machines was implemented or not.)

 > Performance doesn't seem to change in Py3 as
 > the numbers get bigger:

I suspect the effect is more dramatic with multiplication.

-- 
Terry Jan Reedy

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find all multiplicands and multipliers for a number ravas <ravas@outlook.com> - 2015-04-10 16:37 -0700
  Re: find all multiplicands and multipliers for a number Dave Angel <d@davea.name> - 2015-04-10 21:16 -0400
  Re: find all multiplicands and multipliers for a number Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2015-04-10 21:06 -0400
    Re: find all multiplicands and multipliers for a number Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-04-11 12:04 +1000
      Re: find all multiplicands and multipliers for a number Stephen Tucker <stephen_tucker@sil.org> - 2015-04-11 06:11 +0100
      Re: find all multiplicands and multipliers for a number Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-10 23:08 -0700
        Re: find all multiplicands and multipliers for a number Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-04-11 10:14 +0300
          Re: find all multiplicands and multipliers for a number Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-11 09:59 -0700
            Re: find all multiplicands and multipliers for a number Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-04-11 20:31 +0300
              Re: find all multiplicands and multipliers for a number Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-11 10:52 -0700
                Re: find all multiplicands and multipliers for a number Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-04-12 07:10 +1000
                Re: find all multiplicands and multipliers for a number Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2015-04-11 19:58 -0400
                Re: find all multiplicands and multipliers for a number Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-04-12 10:16 +1000
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              Re: find all multiplicands and multipliers for a number Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-12 18:56 -0700
                Re: find all multiplicands and multipliers for a number Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2015-04-12 22:35 -0400
                Re: find all multiplicands and multipliers for a number Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-12 20:30 -0700
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                Re: find all multiplicands and multipliers for a number Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-04-13 17:21 +1000
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        Re: find all multiplicands and multipliers for a number Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-04-11 17:35 +1000
          Re: find all multiplicands and multipliers for a number jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2015-04-11 01:47 -0700
          Re: find all multiplicands and multipliers for a number Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-11 09:31 -0700
            Re: find all multiplicands and multipliers for a number Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-04-12 12:22 +1000
              Re: find all multiplicands and multipliers for a number Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-11 21:24 -0700
                Re: find all multiplicands and multipliers for a number Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-04-12 14:29 +1000
          Re: find all multiplicands and multipliers for a number Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-04-11 12:41 -0400
            Re: find all multiplicands and multipliers for a number Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-11 10:02 -0700
        Re: find all multiplicands and multipliers for a number Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-04-11 12:37 -0400
      Re: find all multiplicands and multipliers for a number Brian Gladman <blindanagram@nowhere.net> - 2015-04-12 10:34 +0100
        Re: find all multiplicands and multipliers for a number Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-04-13 00:29 +1000
          Re: find all multiplicands and multipliers for a number Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-12 10:20 -0700
            Re: find all multiplicands and multipliers for a number Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-12 10:23 -0700
            Re: find all multiplicands and multipliers for a number Brian Gladman <blindanagram@nowhere.net> - 2015-04-12 20:15 +0100
              Re: find all multiplicands and multipliers for a number Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-12 12:45 -0700
          Re: find all multiplicands and multipliers for a number Brian Gladman <blindanagram@nowhere.net> - 2015-04-12 20:07 +0100
  Re: find all multiplicands and multipliers for a number Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-10 18:28 -0700
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