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Re: Feedback on my python framework I'm building.

Date 2012-10-14 03:58 +0100
From MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com>
Subject Re: Feedback on my python framework I'm building.
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On 2012-10-14 03:25, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 15:24:04 -0700, nbvfour wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, October 13, 2012 2:33:43 PM UTC-4, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>>
>>> Nice theory, but this is the bit that I fundamentally disagree with.
>>> Forcing programmers to work in one particular style is usually not the
>>> job of the language/framework/library. That should be up to the
>>> programmer, or at least the local style guide.
>>
>> Have you ever read the zen of python? "Theres only one way to do it" is
>> a core motto of the python language.
>
> Have *you* ever read the Zen of Python? The line from the Zen is:
>
> "There should be one-- and preferably only one --obvious way to do it."
>
> Paraphrasing for emphasis:
>
> There SHOULD be one (or more, but one is best) OBVIOUS way to do it.
>
> as opposed to languages where there are no obvious ways to things, or
> thirty.
>
> Don't believe me that the emphasis is on *obvious* rather than "only"?
> The very next line of the Zen tells you:
>
> "Although that way may not be OBVIOUS at first unless you're Dutch."
>
> [emphasis added]
>
> Not being Dutch, I don't know whether the obvious way to do command line
> argument handling is the getopt module or argparse. But there certainly
> isn't *only one way* to do command line argument handling.
>
> It is a gross canard, mostly spread by Perl programmers, that Python is
> "limited" to "only one way to do it" and therefore isn't as good as Perl
> which gives you "more freedom" (to write unreadable, unmaintainable code).
>
> It simply isn't true that Python only gives you "only one way". The
> acronym OOWTDI stands for *one obvious way to do it*.
>
I think it's the "Paradox of Choice".

The more choices there are, the more time you'll spend trying to decide
which one is "best".

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Feedback on my python framework I'm building. nbvfour@gmail.com - 2012-10-12 21:49 -0700
  Re: Feedback on my python framework I'm building. Etienne Robillard <animelovin@gmail.com> - 2012-10-13 04:18 -0400
  Re: Feedback on my python framework I'm building. Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-10-14 01:12 +1100
    Re: Feedback on my python framework I'm building. nbvfour@gmail.com - 2012-10-13 08:57 -0700
      Re: Feedback on my python framework I'm building. Etienne Robillard <animelovin@gmail.com> - 2012-10-13 12:10 -0400
      Re: Feedback on my python framework I'm building. Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-10-14 03:48 +1100
        Re: Feedback on my python framework I'm building. nbvfour@gmail.com - 2012-10-13 11:18 -0700
          Re: Feedback on my python framework I'm building. Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-10-14 05:33 +1100
            Re: Feedback on my python framework I'm building. nbvfour@gmail.com - 2012-10-13 15:24 -0700
              Re: Feedback on my python framework I'm building. Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-10-14 10:06 +1100
              Re: Feedback on my python framework I'm building. Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-10-14 02:25 +0000
                Re: one obvious parser (was "Feedback on my python framework I'm building.") Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2012-10-13 21:53 -0500
                Re: Feedback on my python framework I'm building. MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2012-10-14 03:58 +0100
            Re: Feedback on my python framework I'm building. nbvfour@gmail.com - 2012-10-13 15:24 -0700
            Re: Feedback on my python framework I'm building. Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-10-14 03:37 +0000
              Re: Feedback on my python framework I'm building. Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-10-14 15:20 +1100
              Re: Feedback on my python framework I'm building. Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2012-10-14 08:48 -0400
                Re: Feedback on my python framework I'm building. Dave Angel <d@davea.name> - 2012-10-14 18:38 -0400
                Re: Feedback on my python framework I'm building. MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2012-10-15 00:40 +0100
                Re: Feedback on my python framework I'm building. Roel Schroeven <roel@roelschroeven.net> - 2012-10-15 19:29 +0200
        Re: Feedback on my python framework I'm building. nbvfour@gmail.com - 2012-10-13 11:18 -0700
      Re: Feedback on my python framework I'm building. Oscar Benjamin <oscar.j.benjamin@gmail.com> - 2012-10-14 01:43 +0100
    Re: Feedback on my python framework I'm building. nbvfour@gmail.com - 2012-10-13 08:57 -0700
  Re: Feedback on my python framework I'm building. Etienne Robillard <animelovin@gmail.com> - 2012-10-13 10:44 -0400

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