Re: New to python, do I need an IDE or is vim still good enough?

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Date	Sun, 6 Jan 2013 23:53:34 -0600 (CST)
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On Fri, 4 Jan 2013, Roy Smith wrote:

> In article <mailman.105.1357349909.2939.python-list@python.org>,
> Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au> wrote:
>
>> On 01/04/13 01:34, Anssi Saari wrote:
>> | Just curious since I read the same thing in a programming book recently
>> | (21st century C). So what's the greatness that terminal multiplexors
>> | offer over tabbed terminals? Especially for software development?
>
> There's no doubt that you need access to multiple terminal sessions.
> Whether you achieve that with multiple terminal windows on your desktop,
> multiple desktops, tabbed terminals, or something like screen is
> entirely personal preference.

+1

I use a tiling WM (awesomewm), but I still find that tmux has its place. 
Usually I'll have a terminal per box that I'm working on, and a tmux 
session within that.

This allows me to detach and reattach from any system I'm on. In addition, 
if I lose my connection, I don't have to figure out which processes I had 
in bg. There's also the neat ability (at least with tmux - I haven't used 
screen for a while now) to work across sessions - so I might have a 
personal session (with things like alpine and irssi), a dev session (with 
Vim, a python prompt, and a shell) - and I can either keep them separate 
if I need to focus, or join the windows if I need some help.

One thing that I've noticed that tmux does poorly is handle the mouse for 
selecting. And as I haven't yet written or found a cross-platform/machine 
clipboard manager, using the tmux copy or xclip doesn't really help that 
much :P

I'd say the main benefit (aside from tiling) is the attach/detach. Unless 
your machine powers off or you kill tmux/screen, your sessions will stay 
around.

-W

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Re: New to python, do I need an IDE or is vim still good enough? Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au> - 2013-01-05 12:38 +1100
  Re: New to python, do I need an IDE or is vim still good enough? Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-01-04 20:59 -0500
    Re: New to python, do I need an IDE or is vim still good enough? Wayne Werner <wayne@waynewerner.com> - 2013-01-06 23:53 -0600

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