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Re: is operator versus id() function

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Date 2013-04-06 06:57 +1100
Subject Re: is operator versus id() function
From Tim Delaney <timothy.c.delaney@gmail.com>
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On 6 April 2013 03:40, candide <c.candide@laposte.net> wrote:

> Le vendredi 5 avril 2013 16:53:55 UTC+2, Arnaud Delobelle a écrit :
>
>
> >
> > You've fallen victim to the fact that CPython is very quick to collect
> >
> > garbage.
>
>
> OK, I get it but it's a fairly unexpected behavior.
> Thanks for the demonstrative snippet of code and the instructive answer.
>

If you read the docs for id() <
http://docs.python.org/3.3/library/functions.html#id>, you will see that it
says:

Return the "identity" of an object. This is an integer which is guaranteed
to be unique and constant for this object during its lifetime. Two objects
with non-overlapping lifetimes may have the same id() value.

If you think it could explain things better, please submit a doc bug.

I think part of your confusion here is that bound methods in Python are
created when accessed. So A.f and a.f are not the same object - one is a
function (an unbound method, but there's no distinction in Python 3.x) and
the other is a bound method. For that reason, accessing a.f twice will
return two different bound method instances.

Python 3.3.0 (v3.3.0:bd8afb90ebf2, Sep 29 2012, 10:57:17) [MSC v.1600 64
bit (AMD64)] on win32
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> class A(object):
...     def f(self):
...         print("A")
...
>>> a=A()
>>> print(id(a.f) == id(a.f), a.f is a.f)
True False
>>>

Tim Delaney

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is operator versus id() function Candide Dandide <c.candide@laposte.net> - 2013-04-05 06:49 -0700
  Re: is operator versus id() function Arnaud Delobelle <arnodel@gmail.com> - 2013-04-05 15:53 +0100
    Re: is operator versus id() function candide <c.candide@laposte.net> - 2013-04-05 09:40 -0700
      Re: is operator versus id() function Tim Delaney <timothy.c.delaney@gmail.com> - 2013-04-06 06:57 +1100
    Re: is operator versus id() function candide <c.candide@laposte.net> - 2013-04-05 09:40 -0700
  Re: is operator versus id() function Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2013-04-06 14:35 +0100

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