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Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard?

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Date 2013-10-23 13:15 -0700
Subject Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard?
From Dan Stromberg <drsalists@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.python
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On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 4:57 AM, <dufriz@gmail.com> wrote:

> I am starting to have doubts as to whether Python 3.x will ever be
> actually adopted by the Python community at large as their standard. Years
> have passed, and a LARGE number of Python programmers has not even bothered
> learning version 3.x. Why am I bothered by this? Because of lot of good
> libraries are still only for version 2.x, and there is no sign of their
> being updated for v3.x. I get the impression as if 3.x, despite being
> better and more advanced than 2.x from the technical point of view, is a
> bit of a letdown in terms of adoption.


When 3.x came out, the python-dev folks practically commanded us to wait a
while before diving in.  I think things are mostly going according to plan.

I think some little-used libraries will never get moved over.

We've been seeing that 2to3 and 3to2 aren't really the main way of moving
things to 3.x; instead, we're seeing a lot of code written to run,
unmodified on both 2.x and 3.x.  This was a bit of a surprise, I think.  A
document I wrote about how to do this is at
http://stromberg.dnsalias.org/~dstromberg/Intro-to-Python/

I find the differences between 2.x and 3.x rather small, actually.  If some
people keep chanting "never going to happen", it probably won't - for them.

Personally, I've been coding greenfield projects in 3.x only and liking it,
and I wrote one ~10,000 line project to run on both:
http://stromberg.dnsalias.org/~strombrg/backshift/

HTH

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Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? dufriz@gmail.com - 2013-10-23 04:57 -0700
  Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> - 2013-10-23 23:16 +1100
    Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2013-10-23 12:36 +0000
      Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-10-23 19:46 -0400
      Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2013-10-23 19:54 -0400
  Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-23 13:35 +0100
    Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? "Colin J. Williams" <cjw@ncf.ca> - 2013-10-23 09:05 -0400
      Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Tim Golden <mail@timgolden.me.uk> - 2013-10-23 14:13 +0100
        Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? "Colin J. Williams" <cjw@ncf.ca> - 2013-10-24 20:03 -0400
      Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-23 14:27 +0100
        Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2013-10-23 15:04 +0000
        Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-10-24 00:17 +0000
          Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-24 09:26 +0100
          Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-10-24 19:31 +1100
      Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Skip Montanaro <skip@pobox.com> - 2013-10-23 08:52 -0500
      Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Tim Golden <mail@timgolden.me.uk> - 2013-10-23 15:01 +0100
      Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-23 15:16 +0100
      Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-23 15:21 +0100
      Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Skip Montanaro <skip@pobox.com> - 2013-10-23 09:34 -0500
      Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Tim Golden <mail@timgolden.me.uk> - 2013-10-23 15:43 +0100
  Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-10-23 23:40 +1100
  Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-23 13:52 +0100
  Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-10-23 08:57 -0400
  Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Kevin Walzer <kw@codebykevin.com> - 2013-10-23 11:03 -0400
  Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Dan Stromberg <drsalists@gmail.com> - 2013-10-23 13:15 -0700
  Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-10-24 00:18 +0000
    Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-24 09:18 +0100
  Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Peter Cacioppi <peter.cacioppi@gmail.com> - 2013-10-23 21:57 -0700
    Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-10-24 17:46 +1100
    Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2013-10-23 23:32 -0700
    Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-24 09:29 +0100
  Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Peter Cacioppi <peter.cacioppi@gmail.com> - 2013-10-23 22:12 -0700
    Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2013-10-24 06:45 +0000
  Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Peter Cacioppi <peter.cacioppi@gmail.com> - 2013-10-24 00:01 -0700
    Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-10-24 18:09 +1100
  Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Antoine Pitrou <solipsis@pitrou.net> - 2013-10-24 08:30 +0000
  Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-10-24 19:37 +1100
  Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-24 09:43 +0100
    Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2013-10-24 10:30 +0000
  Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-24 09:45 +0100
  Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Peter Cacioppi <peter.cacioppi@gmail.com> - 2013-10-24 01:52 -0700
  Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Damien Wyart <damien.wyart@free.fr> - 2013-10-24 15:29 +0200
    Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? ishish <ishish@domhain.de> - 2013-10-24 14:36 +0100
    Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2013-10-24 13:31 -0400
    Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2013-10-24 17:00 -0400
  Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-10-24 20:17 -0400

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