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Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard?

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On 23/10/2013 9:13 AM, Tim Golden wrote:
> On 23/10/2013 14:05, Colin J. Williams wrote:
>> On 23/10/2013 8:35 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
>>> On 23/10/2013 12:57, dufriz@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> Years have passed, and a LARGE number of Python programmers has not
>>>> even bothered learning version 3.x.
>>>
>>> The changes aren't large enough to worry a Python programmer so
>>> effectively there's nothing to learn, other than how to run 2to3.
>>>
>>>> ...there is no sign of their being updated for v3.x.
>>>
>>> Could have fooled me.  The number is growing all the time.  The biggest
>>> problem is likely (IMHO) to be the sheer size of the code base and
>>> limitations on manpower.
>>>
>>>> I get the impression as if 3.x, despite being better and more advanced
>>>> than 2.x from the technical point of view, is a bit of a letdown in
>>>> terms of adoption.
>>>
>>> I agree with this technical aspect, other than the disastrous flexible
>>> string representation, which has been repeatedly shot to pieces by, er,
>>> one idiot :)  As for adaption we'll get there so please don't do a
>>> Captain Mainwearing[1] and panic.  People should also be pursuaded by
>>> watching this from Brett Cannon
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ebyz66jPyJg
>>>
>>> Just my 2 pence worth.
>>>
>>> [1] From the extremely popular BBC TV series "Dad's Army" of the late
>>> 60s and 70s.
>>>
>> It would be good if more of the packages were available, for Python 3.3,
>> in binary for the Windows user.
>>
>> I am currently wrestling with Pandas, lxml etc.
>
> Can I assume you're aware of the industrious Christopher Gohlke?
>
> http://www.lfd.uci.edu/~gohlke/pythonlibs/
>
> TJG
>
Tim,

Many thanks.  I have installed lxml.  help(lxml) looks good.

I'll keep this link for future use.

It would be good if, after some verification process for each package, 
it could be included in  PyPi.

Colin W.

PS  A problem in building lxml from source is that the build expects 
?Cygwin? and I have Mingw32 installed.

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Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? dufriz@gmail.com - 2013-10-23 04:57 -0700
  Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> - 2013-10-23 23:16 +1100
    Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2013-10-23 12:36 +0000
      Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-10-23 19:46 -0400
      Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2013-10-23 19:54 -0400
  Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-23 13:35 +0100
    Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? "Colin J. Williams" <cjw@ncf.ca> - 2013-10-23 09:05 -0400
      Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Tim Golden <mail@timgolden.me.uk> - 2013-10-23 14:13 +0100
        Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? "Colin J. Williams" <cjw@ncf.ca> - 2013-10-24 20:03 -0400
      Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-23 14:27 +0100
        Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2013-10-23 15:04 +0000
        Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-10-24 00:17 +0000
          Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-24 09:26 +0100
          Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-10-24 19:31 +1100
      Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Skip Montanaro <skip@pobox.com> - 2013-10-23 08:52 -0500
      Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Tim Golden <mail@timgolden.me.uk> - 2013-10-23 15:01 +0100
      Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-23 15:16 +0100
      Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-23 15:21 +0100
      Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Skip Montanaro <skip@pobox.com> - 2013-10-23 09:34 -0500
      Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Tim Golden <mail@timgolden.me.uk> - 2013-10-23 15:43 +0100
  Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-10-23 23:40 +1100
  Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-23 13:52 +0100
  Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-10-23 08:57 -0400
  Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Kevin Walzer <kw@codebykevin.com> - 2013-10-23 11:03 -0400
  Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Dan Stromberg <drsalists@gmail.com> - 2013-10-23 13:15 -0700
  Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-10-24 00:18 +0000
    Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-24 09:18 +0100
  Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Peter Cacioppi <peter.cacioppi@gmail.com> - 2013-10-23 21:57 -0700
    Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-10-24 17:46 +1100
    Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2013-10-23 23:32 -0700
    Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-24 09:29 +0100
  Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Peter Cacioppi <peter.cacioppi@gmail.com> - 2013-10-23 22:12 -0700
    Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2013-10-24 06:45 +0000
  Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Peter Cacioppi <peter.cacioppi@gmail.com> - 2013-10-24 00:01 -0700
    Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-10-24 18:09 +1100
  Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Antoine Pitrou <solipsis@pitrou.net> - 2013-10-24 08:30 +0000
  Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-10-24 19:37 +1100
  Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-24 09:43 +0100
    Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2013-10-24 10:30 +0000
  Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-24 09:45 +0100
  Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Peter Cacioppi <peter.cacioppi@gmail.com> - 2013-10-24 01:52 -0700
  Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Damien Wyart <damien.wyart@free.fr> - 2013-10-24 15:29 +0200
    Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? ishish <ishish@domhain.de> - 2013-10-24 14:36 +0100
    Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2013-10-24 13:31 -0400
    Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2013-10-24 17:00 -0400
  Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-10-24 20:17 -0400

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