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On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 6:18 AM, John Nagle <nagle@animats.com> wrote: > No, Python went through the usual design screwups. > Each of [the below] reflects a design error in the type system which > had to be corrected. I'll pick up each one here as I think some of them need further discussion. > Look at how painful the slow transition to Unicode was, > from just "str" to Unicode strings, ASCII strings, byte strings, byte > arrays, 16 and 31 bit character builds, and finally automatic > switching between rune widths. I'm not sure what you mean by all of these - I've known Python for only a (relatively) short time, wasn't there in the 1.x days (much less the <1.0 days). But according to its history page, the early 1.x versions of Python predate the widespread adoption of Unicode, so it's a little unfair to look with 2013 eyes and say that full true Unicode support should have been there from the start. If anyone invents a language today that doesn't handle Unicode properly, I would be very much disappointed; but changing the meaning of quoted string literals is a pretty major change. I'm just glad it got sorted out for 3.0. As to the 16/32 bit builds, there aren't actually very many languages that get this right; Python's now a blazing torch, showing the way for others to follow. (Pike's had something very similar to PEP 393 for years, but nobody looks to obscurities.) I hope we'll see other languages start to follow suit. > Old-style classes vs. new-style classes. By the time I started using Python, new-style classes existed and were the recommended way to do things, so I never got the "feel" for old-style classes. I assume there was a simplicity to them, since new-style classes were described as having a performance cost, but one worth paying. My guess is it comes under the category of "would have to be omniscient to recognize what would happen"; Steven, maybe you can fill us in? > Adding a > boolean type as an afterthought (that was avoidable; C went through > that painful transition before Python was created). I don't know about that. Some languages get by just fine without dedicated a boolean type. Python didn't have them, then it had them as integers, now it has them as bools. Is it a major problem? (Apart from adding them in a point release. That's an admitted mistake.) Python doesn't have a 'vector' type either, you just use a tuple. Some things don't need to be in the language, they can be pushed off to the standard library. And speaking of which... > Operator "+" as concatenation for built-in arrays but addition > for NumPy arrays. ... NumPy definitely isn't part of the language. It's not even part of the standard library, it's fully third-party. The language decrees that [1,2] + [3,4] = [1,2,3,4], and that custom_object1 + custom_object2 = custom_object1.__add__(custom_object2) more or less, and then leaves the implementation of __add__ up to you. Maybe you'll make an "Entropy" class, where entropy+=int blocks until it's acquired that much more entropy (maybe from /dev/random), and entropy-int returns a random number based on its current state. It makes a measure of sense, if not what you normally would want. You can shoot yourself in the foot in any language; and if you write something as big and popular as NumPy, you get to shoot other people in the foot too! :) ChrisA
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Re: Python was designed (was Re: Multi-threading in Python vs Java) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-10-13 15:34 +1100
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Re: Python was designed (was Re: Multi-threading in Python vs Java) rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-10-14 03:39 -0700
Re: Python was designed (was Re: Multi-threading in Python vs Java) John Nagle <nagle@animats.com> - 2013-10-14 12:18 -0700
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Re: Python was designed (was Re: Multi-threading in Python vs Java) Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2013-10-23 06:36 -0400
Re: Python was designed (was Re: Multi-threading in Python vs Java) Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-10-23 14:21 +0000
Re: Python was designed (was Re: Multi-threading in Python vs Java) Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2013-10-24 00:31 +1300
Re: Python was designed (was Re: Multi-threading in Python vs Java) Lele Gaifax <lele@metapensiero.it> - 2013-10-23 17:56 +0200
Re: Python was designed (was Re: Multi-threading in Python vs Java) Peter Cacioppi <peter.cacioppi@gmail.com> - 2013-10-18 13:56 -0700
Re: Python was designed (was Re: Multi-threading in Python vs Java) Peter Cacioppi <peter.cacioppi@gmail.com> - 2013-10-20 23:44 -0700
Re: Python was designed (was Re: Multi-threading in Python vs Java) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-10-21 18:01 +1100
Re: Python was designed (was Re: Multi-threading in Python vs Java) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-21 08:27 +0100
Re: Python was designed (was Re: Multi-threading in Python vs Java) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-10-21 18:31 +1100
Re: Python was designed (was Re: Multi-threading in Python vs Java) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-21 08:39 +0100
Re: Python was designed (was Re: Multi-threading in Python vs Java) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-10-21 18:43 +1100
Re: Python was designed (was Re: Multi-threading in Python vs Java) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-21 09:11 +0100
Re: Python was designed (was Re: Multi-threading in Python vs Java) Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2013-10-21 08:24 +0000
Re: Python was designed (was Re: Multi-threading in Python vs Java) Metallicow <metaliobovinus@gmail.com> - 2013-10-21 01:39 -0700
Re: Python was designed (was Re: Multi-threading in Python vs Java) Peter Cacioppi <peter.cacioppi@gmail.com> - 2013-10-21 01:43 -0700
Re: Python was designed (was Re: Multi-threading in Python vs Java) Metallicow <metaliobovinus@gmail.com> - 2013-10-21 02:17 -0700
Re: Python was designed (was Re: Multi-threading in Python vs Java) rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-10-21 05:50 -0700
Re: Python was designed (was Re: Multi-threading in Python vs Java) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-10-22 02:29 +0000
Re: Python was designed (was Re: Multi-threading in Python vs Java) Skip Montanaro <skip@pobox.com> - 2013-10-22 07:02 -0500
Re: Python was designed (was Re: Multi-threading in Python vs Java) Metallicow <metaliobovinus@gmail.com> - 2013-10-23 22:31 -0700
Re: Python was designed (was Re: Multi-threading in Python vs Java) Peter Cacioppi <peter.cacioppi@gmail.com> - 2013-10-21 19:55 -0700
Re: Python was designed (was Re: Multi-threading in Python vs Java) rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-10-21 20:19 -0700
Re: Python was designed (was Re: Multi-threading in Python vs Java) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-10-22 17:13 +1100
Re: Python was designed (was Re: Multi-threading in Python vs Java) Peter Cacioppi <peter.cacioppi@gmail.com> - 2013-10-22 00:51 -0700
Re: Python was designed (was Re: Multi-threading in Python vs Java) Peter Cacioppi <peter.cacioppi@gmail.com> - 2013-10-25 01:12 -0700
Re: Python was designed (was Re: Multi-threading in Python vs Java) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-10-26 06:19 +0000
Re: Python was designed (was Re: Multi-threading in Python vs Java) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-10-26 17:36 +1100
Re: Python was designed Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-26 10:36 -0700
Re: Python was designed (was Re: Multi-threading in Python vs Java) Peter Cacioppi <peter.cacioppi@gmail.com> - 2013-10-25 23:59 -0700
Re: Python was designed (was Re: Multi-threading in Python vs Java) Peter Cacioppi <peter.cacioppi@gmail.com> - 2013-10-26 12:24 -0700
Re: Python was designed (was Re: Multi-threading in Python vs Java) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-26 22:31 +0100
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