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Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings?

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On 06/04/2014 12:50 AM, wxjmfauth@gmail.com wrote:
> Like many, you are not understanding unicode because
> you do not understand the coding of characters.

If that is true, then I'm sure a well-written paragraph or two can set
him straight.  You continually berate people for not understanding
unicode, but you've posted nothing to explain anything, nor demonstrate
your own understanding.  That's one reason your posts are so frustrating
and considered trolling.  You never ever explain yourself, instead just
flailing around and muttering about folks not understanding unicode,
just as you've done here, true to form.

> 
> You do not understand the coding of the characters
> because you do not understand the mathematics behind it.

flamebaiting here... FSR *is* UTF-32 internally, compresses off leading
zero bits during string creation.

> You focussed on the wrong problem.

Frankly it is you who is focused on the wrong problem, at least with
this particular thread.  I think you got distracted by the subject line.
 Chris's original post really has nothing to do with unicode at all.
He's simply asking for use cases for string indexing where O(1) is
desired or necessary.  Could be old Python 2 byte strings, or Python 3
unicode strings.  It does not matter.  Unicode is orthogonal to his
question.

Maybe his purpose in asking the question is to justify a fixed-length
encoding scheme (which is what FSR actually is), or maybe it is to
explore the costs of using a much slower, but more compact,
variable-length encoding scheme like UTF-8.  Particularly in the context
of low-memory applications where unicode support would be nice, but
memory is at a premium.  But either way, you got hung up on the wrong thing.

> 
> (All this stuff has been discussed, tested and worked on
> 20 (twenty) years ago.)
> 
> Sorry.

As am I.

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Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-06-04 10:39 +1000
  Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-06-03 21:18 -0400
    Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-06-04 12:13 +1000
      Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2014-06-04 18:48 +1200
        Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? alister <alister.nospam.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2014-06-04 10:57 +0000
    Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? alister <alister.nospam.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2014-06-04 10:50 +0000
      Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-06-04 05:52 -0700
        Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? alister <alister.nospam.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2014-06-04 13:36 +0000
  Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-06-03 23:50 -0700
    Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2014-06-04 08:50 -0600
      Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-06-05 00:06 -0700
        Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-06-05 10:20 +0300
        Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? alister <alister.nospam.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2014-06-05 15:39 +0000
          Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-06-05 10:57 -0500
            Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-06-05 18:15 +0100
              Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? alister <alister.nospam.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2014-06-05 17:33 +0000
    Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Joshua Landau <joshua@landau.ws> - 2014-06-05 18:18 +0100
  Re: Unicode and Python Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-06-04 21:25 -0700
    Re: Unicode and Python wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-06-05 00:23 -0700
  Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Johannes Bauer <dfnsonfsduifb@gmx.de> - 2014-06-05 18:09 +0200
    Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-05 11:16 -0700
      Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Johannes Bauer <dfnsonfsduifb@gmx.de> - 2014-06-05 20:42 +0200
        Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Ryan Hiebert <ryan@ryanhiebert.com> - 2014-06-05 13:52 -0500
          Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-05 12:58 -0700
            Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-06-05 14:18 -0600
              Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Johannes Bauer <dfnsonfsduifb@gmx.de> - 2014-06-06 10:47 +0200
                Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2014-06-06 05:37 -0500
                Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-06-06 11:52 +0000
            Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Albert-Jan Roskam <fomcl@yahoo.com> - 2014-06-05 13:34 -0700
              Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-06-05 17:00 -0400
                Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-06-05 15:24 -0700
                Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Ned Deily <nad@acm.org> - 2014-06-05 15:57 -0700
                Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-06-05 20:10 -0400
                Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Ned Deily <nad@acm.org> - 2014-06-05 17:43 -0700
                Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2014-06-06 14:20 +0000
            Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-06-05 18:05 -0600
          Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Johannes Bauer <dfnsonfsduifb@gmx.de> - 2014-06-06 10:42 +0200
            Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Larry Hudson <orgnut@yahoo.com> - 2014-06-06 20:24 -0700
        Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-06-06 05:59 +1000
        Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Ryan Hiebert <ryan@ryanhiebert.com> - 2014-06-05 15:05 -0500

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