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Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings?

From alister <alister.nospam.ware@ntlworld.com>
Subject Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings?
Newsgroups comp.lang.python
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Date 2014-06-05 15:39 +0000

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On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 00:06:54 -0700, wxjmfauth wrote:

> Le mercredi 4 juin 2014 16:50:59 UTC+2, Michael Torrie a écrit :
>> On 06/04/2014 12:50 AM, wxjmfauth@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> > Like many, you are not understanding unicode because
>> 
>> > you do not understand the coding of characters.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> If that is true, then I'm sure a well-written paragraph or two can set
>> 
>> him straight.  You continually berate people for not understanding
>> 
>> unicode, but you've posted nothing to explain anything, nor demonstrate
>> 
>> your own understanding.  That's one reason your posts are so
>> frustrating
>> 
>> and considered trolling.  You never ever explain yourself, instead just
>> 
>> flailing around and muttering about folks not understanding unicode,
>> 
>> just as you've done here, true to form.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> > 
>> > You do not understand the coding of the characters
>> 
>> > because you do not understand the mathematics behind it.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> flamebaiting here... FSR *is* UTF-32 internally, compresses off leading
>> 
>> zero bits during string creation.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> > You focussed on the wrong problem.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Frankly it is you who is focused on the wrong problem, at least with
>> 
>> this particular thread.  I think you got distracted by the subject
>> line.
>> 
>>  Chris's original post really has nothing to do with unicode at all.
>> 
>> He's simply asking for use cases for string indexing where O(1) is
>> 
>> desired or necessary.  Could be old Python 2 byte strings, or Python 3
>> 
>> unicode strings.  It does not matter.  Unicode is orthogonal to his
>> 
>> question.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Maybe his purpose in asking the question is to justify a fixed-length
>> 
>> encoding scheme (which is what FSR actually is), or maybe it is to
>> 
>> explore the costs of using a much slower, but more compact,
>> 
>> variable-length encoding scheme like UTF-8.  Particularly in the
>> context
>> 
>> of low-memory applications where unicode support would be nice, but
>> 
>> memory is at a premium.  But either way, you got hung up on the wrong
>> thing.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> > 
>> > (All this stuff has been discussed, tested and worked on
>> 
>> > 20 (twenty) years ago.)
>> 
>> 
>> > 
>> > Sorry.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> As am I.
> 
> =========
> 
> Unicode ?
> I have the feeling is similar as explaining,
> i (the imaginary number) is not equal to sqrt(-1).
> 
> jmf
> 
> PS Once I gave you a link pointing to unicode.org doc, you obviously did
> not read it.



And you have may time been given a link explaining the problems with 
posting g=from google groups but deliberately choose to not make your 
replys readable.

-- 
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

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Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-06-04 10:39 +1000
  Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-06-03 21:18 -0400
    Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-06-04 12:13 +1000
      Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2014-06-04 18:48 +1200
        Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? alister <alister.nospam.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2014-06-04 10:57 +0000
    Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? alister <alister.nospam.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2014-06-04 10:50 +0000
      Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-06-04 05:52 -0700
        Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? alister <alister.nospam.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2014-06-04 13:36 +0000
  Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-06-03 23:50 -0700
    Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2014-06-04 08:50 -0600
      Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-06-05 00:06 -0700
        Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-06-05 10:20 +0300
        Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? alister <alister.nospam.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2014-06-05 15:39 +0000
          Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-06-05 10:57 -0500
            Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-06-05 18:15 +0100
              Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? alister <alister.nospam.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2014-06-05 17:33 +0000
    Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Joshua Landau <joshua@landau.ws> - 2014-06-05 18:18 +0100
  Re: Unicode and Python Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-06-04 21:25 -0700
    Re: Unicode and Python wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-06-05 00:23 -0700
  Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Johannes Bauer <dfnsonfsduifb@gmx.de> - 2014-06-05 18:09 +0200
    Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-05 11:16 -0700
      Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Johannes Bauer <dfnsonfsduifb@gmx.de> - 2014-06-05 20:42 +0200
        Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Ryan Hiebert <ryan@ryanhiebert.com> - 2014-06-05 13:52 -0500
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            Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-06-05 14:18 -0600
              Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Johannes Bauer <dfnsonfsduifb@gmx.de> - 2014-06-06 10:47 +0200
                Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2014-06-06 05:37 -0500
                Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-06-06 11:52 +0000
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              Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-06-05 17:00 -0400
                Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-06-05 15:24 -0700
                Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Ned Deily <nad@acm.org> - 2014-06-05 15:57 -0700
                Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-06-05 20:10 -0400
                Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Ned Deily <nad@acm.org> - 2014-06-05 17:43 -0700
                Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2014-06-06 14:20 +0000
            Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-06-05 18:05 -0600
          Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Johannes Bauer <dfnsonfsduifb@gmx.de> - 2014-06-06 10:42 +0200
            Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Larry Hudson <orgnut@yahoo.com> - 2014-06-06 20:24 -0700
        Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-06-06 05:59 +1000
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