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Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings?

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Le mercredi 4 juin 2014 16:50:59 UTC+2, Michael Torrie a écrit :
> On 06/04/2014 12:50 AM, wxjmfauth@gmail.com wrote:
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> > Like many, you are not understanding unicode because
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> > you do not understand the coding of characters.
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> 
> 
> If that is true, then I'm sure a well-written paragraph or two can set
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> him straight.  You continually berate people for not understanding
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> unicode, but you've posted nothing to explain anything, nor demonstrate
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> your own understanding.  That's one reason your posts are so frustrating
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> and considered trolling.  You never ever explain yourself, instead just
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> flailing around and muttering about folks not understanding unicode,
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> just as you've done here, true to form.
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> 
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> > 
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> > You do not understand the coding of the characters
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> > because you do not understand the mathematics behind it.
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> 
> 
> flamebaiting here... FSR *is* UTF-32 internally, compresses off leading
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> zero bits during string creation.
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> 
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> > You focussed on the wrong problem.
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> 
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> Frankly it is you who is focused on the wrong problem, at least with
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> this particular thread.  I think you got distracted by the subject line.
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>  Chris's original post really has nothing to do with unicode at all.
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> He's simply asking for use cases for string indexing where O(1) is
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> desired or necessary.  Could be old Python 2 byte strings, or Python 3
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> unicode strings.  It does not matter.  Unicode is orthogonal to his
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> question.
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> Maybe his purpose in asking the question is to justify a fixed-length
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> encoding scheme (which is what FSR actually is), or maybe it is to
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> explore the costs of using a much slower, but more compact,
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> variable-length encoding scheme like UTF-8.  Particularly in the context
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> of low-memory applications where unicode support would be nice, but
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> memory is at a premium.  But either way, you got hung up on the wrong thing.
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> > 
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> > (All this stuff has been discussed, tested and worked on
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> > 20 (twenty) years ago.)
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> > 
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> > Sorry.
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> 
> 
> As am I.

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Unicode ?
I have the feeling is similar as explaining,
i (the imaginary number) is not equal to
sqrt(-1).

jmf

PS Once I gave you a link pointing
to unicode.org doc, you obviously did not read it.

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