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Re: Step further with filebasedMessages

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Op Tuesday 5 May 2015 12:41 CEST schreef Steven D'Aprano:

> On Tuesday 05 May 2015 18:52, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
>
>> I now defined get_message_slice:
>> ### Add step
>> def get_message_slice(message_filename, start, end):
>> """
>> Get a slice of messages, where 0 is the first message
>> Works with negative indexes
>> The values can be ascending and descending
>> """
>
> What's a message in this context? Just a line of text?

Yes. In this case it is. Iuse it to post on Twitter. (OmgangMetTijd)
It was done with an old PHP script. But I switched it to Python, just
to get some needed exercise in Python. But I found it very easy to
extend the functionality.

In my twitter application I use '^' to have the possibility to create
newlines.

>
>
>> message_list    = []
>> real_file       = expanduser(message_filename)
>> nr_of_messages  = get_nr_of_messages(real_file)
>> if start < 0:
>> start += nr_of_messages
>> if end < 0:
>> end += nr_of_messages
>> assert (start >= 0) and (start < nr_of_messages)
>> assert (end   >= 0) and (end   < nr_of_messages)
>
> You can write that as:
>
> assert 0 <= start < nr_of_messages

I was thought that my way is more clear.


> except you probably shouldn't, because that's not a good use for
> assert: start and end are user-supplied parameters, not internal
> invariants.
>
> You might find this useful for understanding when to use assert:
>
> http://import-that.dreamwidth.org/676.html

I will read it.


>> if start > end:
>> tmp             = start
>> start           = end
>> end             = tmp
>> need_reverse    = True
>
> You can swap two variables like this:
>
> start, end = end, start
>
> The language guarantees that the right hand side will be evaluated
> before the assignments are done, so it will automatically do the
> right thing.

That is a lot clearer. Thanks.


> Your behaviour when start and end are in opposite order does not
> match the standard slicing behaviour:
>
> py> "abcdef"[3:5]
> 'de'
> py> "abcdef"[5:3]
> ''
>
> That doesn't mean your behaviour is wrong, but it will surprise
> anyone who expects your slicing to be like the slicing they are used
> to.

Good point: something to think about.


> I think what I would do is:
>
> def get_message_slice(message_filename, start=0, end=None, step=1):
> real_file = expanduser(message_filename)
> with open(real_file, 'r') as f:
> messages = f.readlines()
> return messages[start:end:step]

The idea is that this is expensive for large files.


> until such time that I could prove that I needed something more
> sophisticated. Then, and only then, would I consider your approach,
> except using a slice object:

Because I publish it, I should take reasonable care of the
possibilities of its use.


> # Untested.
> def get_message_slice(message_filename, start=0, end=None, step=1):
> real_file = expanduser(message_filename)
> messages = []
> # FIXME: I assume this is expensive. Can we avoid it?
> nr_of_messages = get_nr_of_messages(real_file)

If I want to give the possibility to use negative values also, I need
the value.


> the_slice = slice(start, end, step)
> # Calculate the indexes in the given slice, e.g.
> # start=1, stop=7, step=2 gives [1,3,5].
> indices = range(*(the_slice.indices(nr_of_messages)))
> with open(real_file, 'r') as f:
> for i, message in enumerate(f):
> if i in indices:
> messages.append(message)
> return messages

I will look into it.

-- 
Cecil Westerhof
Senior Software Engineer
LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/cecilwesterhof

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Step further with filebasedMessages Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2015-05-05 10:52 +0200
  Re: Step further with filebasedMessages Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-05-05 19:20 +1000
    Re: Step further with filebasedMessages Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2015-05-05 12:14 +0200
  Re: Step further with filebasedMessages Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-05-05 20:41 +1000
    Re: Step further with filebasedMessages Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2015-05-05 13:27 +0200
      Re: Step further with filebasedMessages Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2015-05-05 07:57 -0600
        Re: Step further with filebasedMessages Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2015-05-05 16:51 +0200
  Re: Step further with filebasedMessages Peter Otten <__peter__@web.de> - 2015-05-05 13:08 +0200
    Re: Step further with filebasedMessages Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2015-05-05 17:25 +0200
      Re: Step further with filebasedMessages Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2015-05-05 13:10 -0400

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