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Re: asyncio - run coroutine in the background

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Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid>:

> I've just felt depressed whenever I've looked at any Python async
> stuff. I've written many Python programs with threads and not gotten
> into the trouble that people keep warning about.

Programming-model-wise, asyncio is virtually identical with threads. In
each, I dislike the implicit state concept. I want the state to stand
out with big block letters.

> I've just felt depressed whenever I've looked at any Python async
> stuff. I've written many Python programs with threads and not gotten
> into the trouble that people keep warning about. But I haven't really
> understood the warnings, so maybe they know something I don't. I just
> write in a multiprocessing style, with every mutable object owned by
> exactly one thread and accessed only by RPC through queues, sort of a
> poor man's Erlang. There's a performance hit but there's a much bigger
> one from using Python in the first place, so I just live with it.

Good for you if you have been able to choose your own programming model.
Most people have to deal with a legacy mess. Also, maintainers who
inherit your tidy code might not be careful to ship only nonmutable
objects in the queues.

Your way of using threads works, of course, with the caveat that it is
not possible to get rid of a blocking thread from the outside. With
asyncio, you can at least cancel tasks.


Marko

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asyncio - run coroutine in the background "Frank Millman" <frank@chagford.com> - 2016-02-15 08:35 +0200
  Re: asyncio - run coroutine in the background Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-02-15 08:54 +0200
    Re: asyncio - run coroutine in the background "Frank Millman" <frank@chagford.com> - 2016-02-15 09:16 +0200
      Re: asyncio - run coroutine in the background Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-02-15 09:34 +0200
      Re: asyncio - run coroutine in the background Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-02-14 23:39 -0800
        Re: asyncio - run coroutine in the background "Frank Millman" <frank@chagford.com> - 2016-02-15 10:17 +0200
        Re: asyncio - run coroutine in the background Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-02-15 13:05 +0200
        Re: asyncio - run coroutine in the background Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 16:51 +1100
        Re: asyncio - run coroutine in the background Kevin Conway <kevinjacobconway@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 13:22 +0000
          Re: asyncio - run coroutine in the background Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-02-16 16:17 +0200
            Re: asyncio - run coroutine in the background "Frank Millman" <frank@chagford.com> - 2016-02-16 16:36 +0200
            Re: asyncio - run coroutine in the background Kevin Conway <kevinjacobconway@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 14:54 +0000
            Re: asyncio - run coroutine in the background Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-02-17 02:17 +1100
              Re: asyncio - run coroutine in the background Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-02-16 19:12 +0200
                Re: asyncio - run coroutine in the background Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-02-17 20:38 -0800
                Re: asyncio - run coroutine in the background Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-02-18 08:10 +0200
              Re: asyncio - run coroutine in the background Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-02-16 19:13 +0200
              Re: asyncio - run coroutine in the background Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-02-16 19:14 +0200
              Re: asyncio - run coroutine in the background Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-02-16 19:15 +0200
                Re: asyncio - run coroutine in the background Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-02-16 19:15 +0200
                Re: asyncio - run coroutine in the background Robin Becker <robin@reportlab.com> - 2016-02-16 17:52 +0000
            Re: asyncio - run coroutine in the background "Frank Millman" <frank@chagford.com> - 2016-02-16 17:21 +0200
              Re: asyncio - run coroutine in the background Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-02-16 19:20 +0200
                Re: asyncio - run coroutine in the background Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-02-19 23:40 -0800
                Re: asyncio - run coroutine in the background Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-02-20 10:13 +0200
                Re: asyncio - run coroutine in the background Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-02-20 00:37 -0800
                Re: asyncio - run coroutine in the background Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 19:52 +1100
                Re: asyncio - run coroutine in the background Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-02-20 10:59 +0200
                Re: asyncio - run coroutine in the background Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 20:02 +1100
                Re: asyncio - run coroutine in the background Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-02-20 11:28 +0200
                Re: asyncio - run coroutine in the background Kevin Conway <kevinjacobconway@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 13:52 +0000
                Re: asyncio - run coroutine in the background "Martin A. Brown" <martin@linux-ip.net> - 2016-02-20 09:45 -0800
                Re: asyncio - run coroutine in the background Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 08:47 +1100
            Re: asyncio - run coroutine in the background Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 02:28 +1100
            Re: asyncio - run coroutine in the background "Frank Millman" <frank@chagford.com> - 2016-02-16 17:45 +0200
        Re: asyncio - run coroutine in the background "Frank Millman" <frank@chagford.com> - 2016-02-16 15:52 +0200

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