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Re: Gmail eats Python

Newsgroups comp.lang.python
Date 2015-07-25 23:15 -0700
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Subject Re: Gmail eats Python
From Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com>

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On Sunday, July 26, 2015 at 11:05:14 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 3:28 PM, Rustom Mody  wrote:
> > JFTR: Ive been using emacs for 20+ years.  And I have the increasing feeling
> > that my students are getting fedup with it (and me).  Used Idle for my last python
> > course without too much grief.  If only it were an option for 25 programming languages, and org-mode and unicode/devanagari/tex input and.
> 
> Not sure whether you're making the point deliberately or accidentally,
> but that's exactly why emacs is so big and heavy: "if only, if only".
> Simpler things do less.

Well Almost.
Emacs used to stand for "Eight Megabytes And Constantly Swapping"
At a time when 8 MB was large. Is it today?
So let me ask you:
Do you not use ½ dozen (at least) languages?
And their interpreters (when they exist)
And their ancilliary tools (make autoconf etc)
And do you not type plain text?
Emails?
PIM (reminders, timesheets and planning)
Docs (more fancy than plain text, maybe libreoffice/MS/latex...)
Lilypond?
Use, experiment, play-around with (non-ASCII) unicode?

If you have one app to do them all, I'd like (and pay!) for it
If not I bet they are mutually inconsistent.

No...
Emacs is big (its not actually) and heavy (yeah) because there's no BDFL
to clean up the mess and take the flak.
Lehman's law of software deterioration (7th in this list
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lehman%27s_laws_of_software_evolution )
is about as inexorable as entropy in thermodynamics

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  Re: Gmail eats Python Jussi Piitulainen <jpiitula@ling.helsinki.fi> - 2015-07-25 20:52 +0300
    Re: Gmail eats Python Laura Creighton <lac@openend.se> - 2015-07-25 20:05 +0200
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    Re: Gmail eats Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-07-26 10:58 +1000
    Re: Gmail eats Python Jussi Piitulainen <jpiitula@ling.helsinki.fi> - 2015-07-26 08:01 +0300
      Re: Gmail eats Python Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2015-07-25 22:28 -0700
        Re: Gmail eats Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-07-26 15:34 +1000
          Re: Gmail eats Python Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2015-07-25 23:15 -0700
            Re: Gmail eats Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-07-26 16:25 +1000
              Re: Gmail eats Python Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-07-26 09:55 +0300
                Re: Gmail eats Python Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2015-07-26 01:20 -0700
                Re: Gmail eats Python Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-07-26 11:35 +0300
                Re: Gmail eats Python Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2015-07-26 01:50 -0700
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                Re: Gmail eats Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-07-26 12:27 +0100
                Re: Gmail eats Python Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-07-26 12:51 +0300
                Re: Gmail eats Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-07-26 20:03 +1000
                Re: Gmail eats Python Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-07-26 13:31 +0300
                Re: Gmail eats Python Jussi Piitulainen <jpiitula@ling.helsinki.fi> - 2015-07-26 14:30 +0300
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                Re: Gmail eats Python Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2015-07-26 06:16 -0700
                Re: Gmail eats Python Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2015-07-28 20:35 -0700
                Re: Gmail eats Python Laura Creighton <lac@openend.se> - 2015-07-29 18:32 +0200
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            Re: Gmail eats Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-07-26 12:25 +0100
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          Re: Gmail eats Python Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2015-07-26 08:59 -0700
            Re: Gmail eats Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-07-26 18:21 +0100
            Re: Gmail eats Python Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-07-27 03:40 +1000
              Re: Gmail eats Python Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2015-07-26 14:34 -0700
              Re: Gmail eats Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-07-27 11:47 +1000
            Re: Gmail eats Python Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2015-07-26 19:45 +0000
              Re: Gmail eats Python Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2015-07-26 14:54 -0700
  Re: Gmail eats Python Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-07-26 14:49 +1000
    Re: Gmail eats Python Jussi Piitulainen <jpiitula@ling.helsinki.fi> - 2015-07-26 08:37 +0300

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