Re: know its ipad

From	Ry Nohryb <jorge@jorgechamorro.com>
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Subject	Re: know its ipad
Date	2011-07-18 02:19 -0700
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On Jul 18, 4:54 am, RobG <rg...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>
> But the issue here is how to make the versions available. It doesn't
> make sense to me to limit access based on sniffing particular devices,

"Limit access" ? No. Serve the best page for his device, yes.

> when there are so many other variables in the decision of which UI to
> use and where the range of devices accessing the site may be way
> beyond what was envisaged.
>
> It goes back to the fundamentals of why browser sniffing was a bad
> idea. It's still a bad idea for all the same reasons,

I disagree, it's simply the faster/easier/better way to detect an iOS
device.

> the two main
> ones being that you can't necessarily determine a user's requirements
> based on the device they are using,

Of course you can once you know, say, that it's an iPhone and not a
shitty netbook.

> nor can you determine reliablly
> *every* device that might access the site.

Nothing is perfect.

The tens (or hundreds) of inferences and dead js code/styles/markup
you want to put and serve in a single file just for the sake of mixing
it up all is a much worse idea yet.
--
Jorge.

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know its ipad Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2011-07-12 14:35 +1000
  Re: know its ipad "Richard Cornford" <Richard@litotes.demon.co.uk> - 2011-07-12 09:04 +0100
    Re: know its ipad Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2011-07-12 21:19 +1000
      Re: know its ipad 123Jim <jnkjnjnini@uhnuhnunuhnuy.invalid> - 2011-07-12 13:09 +0100
        Re: know its ipad Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2011-07-13 07:35 +1000
          Re: know its ipad 123Jim <jnkjnjnini@uhnuhnunuhnuy.invalid> - 2011-07-13 01:00 +0100
            Re: know its ipad 123Jim <jnkjnjnini@uhnuhnunuhnuy.invalid> - 2011-07-13 01:14 +0100
            Re: know its ipad Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2011-07-13 15:57 +1000
              Re: know its ipad RobG <rgqld@iinet.net.au> - 2011-07-12 23:29 -0700
                Re: know its ipad RobG <rgqld@iinet.net.au> - 2011-07-12 23:31 -0700
                Re: know its ipad Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2011-07-13 17:25 +1000
                Re: know its ipad Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2011-07-13 12:53 +0200
                Re: know its ipad Ry Nohryb <jorge@jorgechamorro.com> - 2011-07-13 04:20 -0700
                Re: know its ipad RobG <rgqld@iinet.net.au> - 2011-07-13 04:34 -0700
                Re: know its ipad Ry Nohryb <jorge@jorgechamorro.com> - 2011-07-13 04:58 -0700
                Re: know its ipad 123Jim <jnkjnjnini@uhnuhnunuhnuy.invalid> - 2011-07-13 13:50 +0100
                Re: know its ipad dhtml <dhtmlkitchen@gmail.com> - 2011-07-13 11:02 -0700
                Re: know its ipad Ry Nohryb <jorge@jorgechamorro.com> - 2011-07-13 11:59 -0700
                Re: know its ipad 123Jim <jnkjnjnini@uhnuhnunuhnuy.invalid> - 2011-07-13 21:32 +0100
                Re: know its ipad Ry Nohryb <jorge@jorgechamorro.com> - 2011-07-13 14:28 -0700
                Re: know its ipad 123Jim <jnkjnjnini@uhnuhnunuhnuy.invalid> - 2011-07-13 23:46 +0100
                Re: know its ipad Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2011-07-14 10:01 +1000
                Re: know its ipad RobG <rgqld@iinet.net.au> - 2011-07-13 16:51 -0700
                Re: know its ipad Ry Nohryb <jorge@jorgechamorro.com> - 2011-07-14 02:04 -0700
                Re: know its ipad Ry Nohryb <jorge@jorgechamorro.com> - 2011-07-14 15:11 -0700
                Re: know its ipad RobG <rgqld@iinet.net.au> - 2011-07-14 21:54 -0700
                Re: know its ipad Yoda <jorgechamorro@mac.com> - 2011-07-15 03:14 -0700
                Re: know its ipad Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2011-07-15 13:06 +0100
                Re: know its ipad Ry Nohryb <jorge@jorgechamorro.com> - 2011-07-15 08:14 -0700
                Re: know its ipad Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2011-07-15 20:00 +0100
                Re: know its ipad Ry Nohryb <jorge@jorgechamorro.com> - 2011-07-15 12:12 -0700
                Re: know its ipad Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2011-07-16 01:14 +0100
                Re: know its ipad Jorge <jorge%jorgechamorro.com@gtempaccount.com> - 2011-07-16 08:56 -0700
                Re: know its ipad Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2011-07-16 23:07 +0100
                Re: know its ipad RobG <rgqld@iinet.net.au> - 2011-07-17 16:40 -0700
                Re: know its ipad Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2011-07-18 11:33 +1000
                Re: know its ipad RobG <rgqld@iinet.net.au> - 2011-07-17 19:54 -0700
                Re: know its ipad Ry Nohryb <jorge@jorgechamorro.com> - 2011-07-18 02:19 -0700
                Re: know its ipad Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2011-07-18 21:41 +0200
                Re: know its ipad Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2011-07-19 07:13 +1000
                Re: know its ipad Dr J R Stockton <reply1129@merlyn.demon.co.uk> - 2011-07-19 20:18 +0100
                Re: know its ipad Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2011-07-17 10:34 +0200
                Re: know its ipad dhtml <dhtmlkitchen@gmail.com> - 2011-07-15 09:56 -0700
              Re: know its ipad Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2011-07-13 11:57 +0200
              Re: know its ipad Ry Nohryb <jorge@jorgechamorro.com> - 2011-07-13 04:13 -0700
        Re: know its ipad Dr J R Stockton <reply1128@merlyn.demon.co.uk> - 2011-07-13 18:19 +0100
          Re: know its ipad "Evertjan." <exjxw.hannivoort@interxnl.net> - 2011-07-14 08:12 +0000
      Re: know its ipad Richard Cornford <Richard@litotes.demon.co.uk> - 2011-07-13 08:05 -0700
        Re: know its ipad Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2011-07-14 08:34 +1000
  Re: know its ipad Elegie <elegie@anonymous.invalid> - 2011-07-12 10:13 +0200
  Re: know its ipad Ry Nohryb <jorge@jorgechamorro.com> - 2011-07-12 04:19 -0700
  Re: know its ipad Bjoern Hoehrmann <bjoern@hoehrmann.de> - 2011-07-12 13:24 +0200

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