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Re: know its ipad

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On Jul 15, 8:11 am, Ry Nohryb <jo...@jorgechamorro.com> wrote:
> On Jul 14, 11:04 am, Ry Nohryb <jo...@jorgechamorro.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jul 14, 1:51 am, RobG <rg...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>
> > > (...)
> > > It really is quite simple. Try the following site:
>
> > > <URL:http://www.seabreeze.com.au/graphs/qld2.asp>
> > > (...)
> > > That site was designed before touch devices were widely available
> > > (perhaps before they were available at all), yet maintains its
> > > functionality on various devices.
>
> > Agreed, yes indeed, that's a page designed for a desktop that (barely)
> > functions on an iPhone, but it's far away from the best possible
> > experience for mobile users.

Considering it hasn't been optimised for mobile at all, it's a great
example that good design will work regardless. Yes, it could do with a
few updates for mobile devices, but there is no need for a separate
site.

>
> To see what I mean, go, for example, to <http://thenextweb.com> with a
> desktop browser, and then with an iPad.

I use Firefox on a PC and an iPhone.


A great example of that the web should not become. The "desktop"
version (they really have no clue about the device, I presume they are
browser sniffing) is over 2mb, with 420kb of script in 16 separate
files. The mobile version is (predictably) a dumbed-down version of
what I presume is the main content. Pitty the didn't apply the same
rigour to the desktop version, then they could have one version of the
site and deliver their data very much more effectively.

Rotating the iPhone from portrait to landscape causes all sorts of
(script driven) reflow, the articles expand off the edge of the screen
so I have to resize them to fit, and the article that was formerly in
view is scrolled a couple of screens higher. A pretty disasterous
breaking of the native UI. Rotating back to portrait and it jiggles
around for a few seconds again, scrolling the article that I was
reading off the bottom of the screen. A wonderful example of why
developers should leave the native UI alone and not try to write a
better one using script.

If you need convincing of the cluelessness of the developers, try this
code from the ncomments.js file:

  if (typeof($jl)=='function') { // if jquery is available, get all
relevant nodes

    $jl('.livefyre-ncomments[article_id='+article_id
+']').each(function(i,e) {

      nodes.push(e);

    });

  } else { // else just use this shitty old livefyreIndex thing

    nodes.push(livefyreIndex[article_id]);

  }

Or perhaps my sarcasm-o-meter is not set correctly.


--
Rob

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know its ipad Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2011-07-12 14:35 +1000
  Re: know its ipad "Richard Cornford" <Richard@litotes.demon.co.uk> - 2011-07-12 09:04 +0100
    Re: know its ipad Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2011-07-12 21:19 +1000
      Re: know its ipad 123Jim <jnkjnjnini@uhnuhnunuhnuy.invalid> - 2011-07-12 13:09 +0100
        Re: know its ipad Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2011-07-13 07:35 +1000
          Re: know its ipad 123Jim <jnkjnjnini@uhnuhnunuhnuy.invalid> - 2011-07-13 01:00 +0100
            Re: know its ipad 123Jim <jnkjnjnini@uhnuhnunuhnuy.invalid> - 2011-07-13 01:14 +0100
            Re: know its ipad Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2011-07-13 15:57 +1000
              Re: know its ipad RobG <rgqld@iinet.net.au> - 2011-07-12 23:29 -0700
                Re: know its ipad RobG <rgqld@iinet.net.au> - 2011-07-12 23:31 -0700
                Re: know its ipad Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2011-07-13 17:25 +1000
                Re: know its ipad Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2011-07-13 12:53 +0200
                Re: know its ipad Ry Nohryb <jorge@jorgechamorro.com> - 2011-07-13 04:20 -0700
                Re: know its ipad RobG <rgqld@iinet.net.au> - 2011-07-13 04:34 -0700
                Re: know its ipad Ry Nohryb <jorge@jorgechamorro.com> - 2011-07-13 04:58 -0700
                Re: know its ipad 123Jim <jnkjnjnini@uhnuhnunuhnuy.invalid> - 2011-07-13 13:50 +0100
                Re: know its ipad dhtml <dhtmlkitchen@gmail.com> - 2011-07-13 11:02 -0700
                Re: know its ipad Ry Nohryb <jorge@jorgechamorro.com> - 2011-07-13 11:59 -0700
                Re: know its ipad 123Jim <jnkjnjnini@uhnuhnunuhnuy.invalid> - 2011-07-13 21:32 +0100
                Re: know its ipad Ry Nohryb <jorge@jorgechamorro.com> - 2011-07-13 14:28 -0700
                Re: know its ipad 123Jim <jnkjnjnini@uhnuhnunuhnuy.invalid> - 2011-07-13 23:46 +0100
                Re: know its ipad Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2011-07-14 10:01 +1000
                Re: know its ipad RobG <rgqld@iinet.net.au> - 2011-07-13 16:51 -0700
                Re: know its ipad Ry Nohryb <jorge@jorgechamorro.com> - 2011-07-14 02:04 -0700
                Re: know its ipad Ry Nohryb <jorge@jorgechamorro.com> - 2011-07-14 15:11 -0700
                Re: know its ipad RobG <rgqld@iinet.net.au> - 2011-07-14 21:54 -0700
                Re: know its ipad Yoda <jorgechamorro@mac.com> - 2011-07-15 03:14 -0700
                Re: know its ipad Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2011-07-15 13:06 +0100
                Re: know its ipad Ry Nohryb <jorge@jorgechamorro.com> - 2011-07-15 08:14 -0700
                Re: know its ipad Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2011-07-15 20:00 +0100
                Re: know its ipad Ry Nohryb <jorge@jorgechamorro.com> - 2011-07-15 12:12 -0700
                Re: know its ipad Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2011-07-16 01:14 +0100
                Re: know its ipad Jorge <jorge%jorgechamorro.com@gtempaccount.com> - 2011-07-16 08:56 -0700
                Re: know its ipad Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2011-07-16 23:07 +0100
                Re: know its ipad RobG <rgqld@iinet.net.au> - 2011-07-17 16:40 -0700
                Re: know its ipad Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2011-07-18 11:33 +1000
                Re: know its ipad RobG <rgqld@iinet.net.au> - 2011-07-17 19:54 -0700
                Re: know its ipad Ry Nohryb <jorge@jorgechamorro.com> - 2011-07-18 02:19 -0700
                Re: know its ipad Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2011-07-18 21:41 +0200
                Re: know its ipad Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2011-07-19 07:13 +1000
                Re: know its ipad Dr J R Stockton <reply1129@merlyn.demon.co.uk> - 2011-07-19 20:18 +0100
                Re: know its ipad Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2011-07-17 10:34 +0200
                Re: know its ipad dhtml <dhtmlkitchen@gmail.com> - 2011-07-15 09:56 -0700
              Re: know its ipad Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2011-07-13 11:57 +0200
              Re: know its ipad Ry Nohryb <jorge@jorgechamorro.com> - 2011-07-13 04:13 -0700
        Re: know its ipad Dr J R Stockton <reply1128@merlyn.demon.co.uk> - 2011-07-13 18:19 +0100
          Re: know its ipad "Evertjan." <exjxw.hannivoort@interxnl.net> - 2011-07-14 08:12 +0000
      Re: know its ipad Richard Cornford <Richard@litotes.demon.co.uk> - 2011-07-13 08:05 -0700
        Re: know its ipad Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2011-07-14 08:34 +1000
  Re: know its ipad Elegie <elegie@anonymous.invalid> - 2011-07-12 10:13 +0200
  Re: know its ipad Ry Nohryb <jorge@jorgechamorro.com> - 2011-07-12 04:19 -0700
  Re: know its ipad Bjoern Hoehrmann <bjoern@hoehrmann.de> - 2011-07-12 13:24 +0200

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