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Re: closure bindings

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Michael Haufe (TNO) wrote:

> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>> Probably you mean ECMAScript implementations.
> 
> Since this is comp.lang.javascript, you're probably right

The term "JS family" is misleading, as it presupposes that it would be the 
original language (which went on to become one of the first ECMAScript 
implementation) which informs the other ECMAScript implementations.

>> This has nothing to do with "legacy implementations".
> 
> The intended meaning was testing/usage in pre-ES5.

But this has nothing to do with on which Edition of ECMAScript the 
implementation is based.

>> And AISB, and we discussed at length before, `this' has nothing to do
>> with scope.
>> [...]
> 
> You asked for something impossible, and I offered partial solutions to
> emulate some of the effects. If you're question was rhetorical you
> should have been clearer up front.

(That's _your_ in English.)  No, the question was not rhetorical,
but I figured that you (or anyone) could not offer a way to do this.

>> Something is awfully wrong with your posting agent or the way you use it.
>> I will not attempt to make sense of this mess.
> 
> GG.

Ahh, the followup got you +1.  Usually I don't read GG postings for that and 
other reasons.

>> >> > Perhaps something involving manipulation and passing of the
>> >> > arguments object...
>> >> But that also has nothing to do with (passing) scope.
>> > And again, it at least provides a means of partially getting the
>> > effect of having one.
>>
>> Only by chance and ignorance.
> 
> The listed examples are obviously ones to be avoided, but so is the
> desire to pass scope as a parameter to a function in the first place.

If that worked, and worked reliably, then it could lead to interesting code.
But it does not.


PointedEars
-- 
Prototype.js was written by people who don't know javascript for people
who don't know javascript. People who don't know javascript are not
the best source of advice on designing systems that use javascript.
  -- Richard Cornford, cljs, <f806at$ail$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>

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