Re: multi browser forms issue

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From	Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Organization	PointedEars Software (PES)
Date	2011-11-07 14:13 +0100
Subject	Re: multi browser forms issue
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Eric Bednarz wrote:

> David Mark <dmark.cinsoft@gmail.com> writes:
>>> <!DOCTYPE HTML>
>> Why are you using HTML5?
> 
> That’s not ‘using HTML5’, that’s choosing a rendering mode in a mnemonic
> fashion, and without the cargo cult parts that do nothing.

Incorrect.  There is a difference in rendering between using a DOCTYPE 
declaration without a public identifier (as here), a DOCTYPE declaration 
containing only a public identifier, and a DOCTYPE declaration containing 
both a public and a system identifier.  Therefore, "using HTML5" is nothing 
more than a proper, if colloquial, synonym for the first part of your 
definition.

>> Many browsers in use (e.g. most versions of IE) don't know what it is.
>> And seeing as multi-browser consistency is eluding you...
> 
> Many (besides academical experiments, I'd say all) browsers don’t know
> what SGML is, still lots of websites try to look like (parts of) SGML
> documents.

The DOCTYPE declaration matters for various reasons that appear to elude 
you.

> Having said that, the above document type declaration meets the SGML
> production for ‘document type declaration’. Go figure.

You should have provided some proof of your assertion, such as 
<http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/SGML/productions.html>

But HTML5 is not SGML-based.

PointedEars
-- 
Prototype.js was written by people who don't know javascript for people
who don't know javascript. People who don't know javascript are not
the best source of advice on designing systems that use javascript.
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multi browser forms issue Dizzee <slightlyandy@gmail.com> - 2011-11-06 14:07 -0800
  Re: multi browser forms issue Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2011-11-06 22:38 +0000
  Re: multi browser forms issue David Mark <dmark.cinsoft@gmail.com> - 2011-11-07 04:40 -0800
    Re: multi browser forms issue Eric Bednarz <bednarz@fahr-zur-hoelle.org> - 2011-11-07 14:01 +0100
      Re: multi browser forms issue Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2011-11-07 14:13 +0100
        Re: multi browser forms issue Eric Bednarz <bednarz@fahr-zur-hoelle.org> - 2011-11-07 14:58 +0100
          Re: multi browser forms issue Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2011-11-07 15:51 +0100
      Re: multi browser forms issue "Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> - 2011-11-07 16:08 +0200
      Re: multi browser forms issue David Mark <dmark.cinsoft@gmail.com> - 2011-11-07 13:05 -0800
        Re: multi browser forms issue Eric Bednarz <bednarz@fahr-zur-hoelle.org> - 2011-11-07 23:07 +0100
          Re: multi browser forms issue Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2011-11-07 23:26 +0100
            Re: multi browser forms issue Eric Bednarz <bednarz@fahr-zur-hoelle.org> - 2011-11-09 20:17 +0100
              Re: multi browser forms issue Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2011-11-10 18:42 +0100
                Re: multi browser forms issue Eric Bednarz <bednarz@fahr-zur-hoelle.org> - 2011-11-11 23:38 +0100

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