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Re: U.S. warns on Java software as security concerns escalate

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From Jim Janney <jjanney@shell.xmission.com>
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Subject Re: U.S. warns on Java software as security concerns escalate
Date Thu, 17 Jan 2013 12:36:18 -0700
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Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> writes:

> On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 15:22:07 +1100, Rajiv Gupta <rajiv@invalid.com>
> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :
>
>>Browser manufacturers should stop supporting Java. Applets are a dead 
>>technology which hardly anybody uses (except for criminals).
>
>  Applets are an inherently much superior technology for client side
> computing. Nothing else has a sandbox.  Nothing else is so scrupulous
> about signing for dangerous code.  Nothing else is so compact.
> Browsers don't load the Java engine at start up, which made them
> appear slower than they really are.  Even that has been fixed with
> smarter JVMs that hang around as DLLs. 
>
> Compared with every other technology they have been remarkably malware
> free.  I use them all the time on my website. See
> http://mindprod.com/aplets/applet.html
> I am not a criminal. I don't think you know the first thing about
> Applets. You are just repeating something read somewhere.

I usually think of applets as an interesting idea that somehow failed to
catch on: the history of technology is full of such occurrences.  The
recent problems with the security manager are simple negligence on the
part of Oracle.

Other than applets, are there any classes of Java programs that rely on
the security manager?

-- 
Jim Janney

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U.S. warns on Java software as security concerns escalate emf <emfril@gmail.com> - 2013-01-12 07:48 -0500
  Re: U.S. warns on Java software as security concerns escalate Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-01-12 09:05 -0500
    Re: U.S. warns on Java software as security concerns escalate RVic <rvince99@hotmail.com> - 2013-01-12 08:00 -0800
      Re: U.S. warns on Java software as security concerns escalate Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-01-12 11:23 -0500
  Re: U.S. warns on Java software as security concerns escalate Peter Duniho <NpOeStPeAdM@NnOwSlPiAnMk.com> - 2013-01-12 10:28 -0800
  Re: U.S. warns on Java software as security concerns escalate Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2013-01-12 10:38 -0800
    Re: U.S. warns on Java software as security concerns escalate Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-01-12 13:41 -0500
  Re: U.S. warns on Java software as security concerns escalate "Hiram Hunt" <hiramhunt@verizon.net> - 2013-01-13 15:41 -0500
  Re: U.S. warns on Java software as security concerns escalate Rajiv Gupta <rajiv@invalid.com> - 2013-01-15 15:22 +1100
    Re: U.S. warns on Java software as security concerns escalate Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2013-01-15 07:31 -0800
    Re: U.S. warns on Java software as security concerns escalate Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2013-01-15 14:23 -0800
      Re: U.S. warns on Java software as security concerns escalate Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-01-15 21:10 -0500
      Re: U.S. warns on Java software as security concerns escalate Rajiv Gupta <rajiv@invalid.com> - 2013-01-17 11:47 +1100
        Re: U.S. warns on Java software as security concerns escalate Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2013-01-16 17:01 -0800
          Re: U.S. warns on Java software as security concerns escalate Rajiv Gupta <rajiv@invalid.com> - 2013-01-17 14:50 +1100
            Re: U.S. warns on Java software as security concerns escalate Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2013-01-17 14:31 -0800
        Re: U.S. warns on Java software as security concerns escalate Joshua Cranmer <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2013-01-16 21:55 -0600
        Re: U.S. warns on Java software as security concerns escalate Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2013-01-17 14:57 -0800
      Re: U.S. warns on Java software as security concerns escalate Jim Janney <jjanney@shell.xmission.com> - 2013-01-17 12:36 -0700
        Re: U.S. warns on Java software as security concerns escalate Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2013-01-17 14:33 -0800
        Re: U.S. warns on Java software as security concerns escalate Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-01-17 18:14 -0500
        Re: U.S. warns on Java software as security concerns escalate Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-01-17 18:16 -0500
  Re: U.S. warns on Java software as security concerns escalate Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2013-01-15 00:23 -0800
    Re: U.S. warns on Java software as security concerns escalate Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2013-01-15 06:47 -0800
      Re: U.S. warns on Java software as security concerns escalate Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2013-01-15 14:34 -0800

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