Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!us.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.straub-nv.de!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!mx04.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jim Janney Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: U.S. warns on Java software as security concerns escalate Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 12:36:18 -0700 Organization: Mars needs worms Lines: 31 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: mx04.eternal-september.org; posting-host="75975abe3fe3503ca7350803ab98e478"; logging-data="5373"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19Yz2ZlTZD+qG+Hva86FaA7" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:c1aOJL+YSroodvDF2zo2vYxddoc= sha1:3uv7tWRnID3oqhm4VeFQVXluzAA= Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.java.programmer:21485 Roedy Green writes: > On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 15:22:07 +1100, Rajiv Gupta > wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said : > >>Browser manufacturers should stop supporting Java. Applets are a dead >>technology which hardly anybody uses (except for criminals). > > Applets are an inherently much superior technology for client side > computing. Nothing else has a sandbox. Nothing else is so scrupulous > about signing for dangerous code. Nothing else is so compact. > Browsers don't load the Java engine at start up, which made them > appear slower than they really are. Even that has been fixed with > smarter JVMs that hang around as DLLs. > > Compared with every other technology they have been remarkably malware > free. I use them all the time on my website. See > http://mindprod.com/aplets/applet.html > I am not a criminal. I don't think you know the first thing about > Applets. You are just repeating something read somewhere. I usually think of applets as an interesting idea that somehow failed to catch on: the history of technology is full of such occurrences. The recent problems with the security manager are simple negligence on the part of Oracle. Other than applets, are there any classes of Java programs that rely on the security manager? -- Jim Janney