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| From | markspace <-@.> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.java.programmer |
| Subject | Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) |
| Date | 2012-05-08 13:59 -0700 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <joc1ep$bap$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
| References | <t5giq7l185ms1k9qs9pb4mknj14tfpbij5@4ax.com> <C8fqr.2056$oK2.610@newsfe13.iad> <joc03f$6ic$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
On 5/8/2012 1:36 PM, Nasser M. Abbasi wrote: > On 5/8/2012 3:14 PM, Arved Sandstrom wrote: >> >> The main problem is the human being, whether coder or user. >> > I think the whole internet is doomed. no where to run and hide > any more. Arved wins this argument. From the article: "Sure, I could opt not to use those Java-enabled services or install Java and uninstall when I'm finished. But the core problem isn't necessarily Java's exploitability; nearly all software is exploitable. It's *unpatched* Java. Few successful Java-related attacks are related to zero-day exploits. Almost all are related to Java security bugs that have been patched for months (or longer)." Again I use FireFox. After a recent upgrade of FF, it disabled the Java plugin (a recent one, version 6 update 22 or so) calling it insecure. OK whatever, so I downloaded a new one. It bugged me at the time but now I see why: FF was forcing me to upgraded to a later patch. This I'm removes known vulnerabilities. It takes effort to stay on top of these things but it can be done. Now, who's at fault for the Mac Java exploit? Oracle? Or Apple for allowing users to run old, insecure versions of Java?
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Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-05-08 08:51 -0700
Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2012-05-08 17:14 -0300
Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) "Nasser M. Abbasi" <nma@12000.org> - 2012-05-08 15:36 -0500
Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) markspace <-@.> - 2012-05-08 13:51 -0700
Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) "Nasser M. Abbasi" <nma@12000.org> - 2012-05-08 16:01 -0500
Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) markspace <-@.> - 2012-05-08 14:15 -0700
Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) "Nasser M. Abbasi" <nma@12000.org> - 2012-05-08 16:41 -0500
Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-05-08 15:19 -0700
Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) markspace <-@.> - 2012-05-08 15:21 -0700
Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-05-08 15:05 -0700
Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2012-05-08 19:12 -0300
Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-05-10 19:05 -0700
Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-05-08 21:03 -0400
Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) markspace <-@.> - 2012-05-08 20:52 -0700
Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2012-05-09 06:58 -0400
Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-05-09 12:04 -0700
Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-05-09 10:06 -0700
Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-05-10 20:20 -0400
Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Bent C Dalager <bcd@pvv.ntnu.no> - 2012-05-11 09:09 +0000
Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-05-11 09:41 -0700
Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) "javax.swing.JSnarker" <gharriman@boojum.mit.edu> - 2012-05-12 01:30 -0400
Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Sleepy the Dwarf <std75821@gmail.com> - 2012-05-13 08:40 -0400
Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-05-20 22:37 -0400
Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-05-20 20:25 -0700
Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Bent C Dalager <bcd@pvv.ntnu.no> - 2012-05-21 19:31 +0000
Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-05-20 22:35 -0400
Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Bent C Dalager <bcd@pvv.ntnu.no> - 2012-05-21 19:26 +0000
Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Kev Warren <k.warren312@noobnot.notnoob.org> - 2012-05-21 17:36 -0400
Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) markspace <-@.> - 2012-05-08 13:59 -0700
Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-05-08 21:04 -0400
Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) markspace <-@.> - 2012-05-08 20:54 -0700
Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-05-10 20:23 -0400
Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Joshua Maurice <joshuamaurice@gmail.com> - 2012-05-08 15:32 -0700
Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-05-10 16:36 -0700
Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-05-08 21:13 -0400
Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2012-05-09 16:50 -0300
Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-05-10 20:26 -0400
Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-05-08 21:19 -0400
Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-05-09 14:42 -0700
Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Joshua Cranmer <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2012-05-10 17:07 -0500
Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-05-10 20:19 -0400
Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-05-20 22:33 -0400
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