Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]

Groups > comp.lang.java.programmer > #14481

Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to)

Show all headers | View raw

On Fri, 11 May 2012 09:09:48 +0000 (UTC), Bent C Dalager
<bcd@pvv.ntnu.no> wrote:

>On 2012-05-11, Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> wrote:
>> On 5/8/2012 11:52 PM, markspace wrote:
>>> On 5/8/2012 6:03 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>
>>> Sure I often have to enable JS, but only after I've seen the site first.
>>> If it looks dodgy, I just leave. And often I can still click on a few
>>> links or read an article without JS. It's rare I'll enable JS if I just
>>> need one thing from a site.
>>
>> That does not sound as 2012 to me.

     I decide on site use by something other than fashion.

     There are many Websites that are not decked out in a fashionable
manner but that are very useful.  I prefer them.

>I think it's generally well accepted that using protection may detract
>from the experience somewhat, but this does not automatically make it
>a bad idea to do so. :-)
>
>Personally, if someone expects me to spend my time on their website
>they better provide a compelling reason for me to want to do so, and
>gratuitous dependence on JS just puts me off. In general I consider it
>a good early indicator of a terrible web designer: "You need JS to
>click this link", right so this guy taught himself web design in his
>own dreams.

     Exactly.  Except that the JS-to-click design might also be due to
a gratuitous complexity bug (in the coder).

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

Back to comp.lang.java.programmer | Previous | Next — Previous in thread | Next in thread | Find similar | Unroll thread

Thread

Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-05-08 08:51 -0700
  Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2012-05-08 17:14 -0300
    Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) "Nasser M. Abbasi" <nma@12000.org> - 2012-05-08 15:36 -0500
      Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) markspace <-@.> - 2012-05-08 13:51 -0700
        Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) "Nasser M. Abbasi" <nma@12000.org> - 2012-05-08 16:01 -0500
          Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) markspace <-@.> - 2012-05-08 14:15 -0700
            Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) "Nasser M. Abbasi" <nma@12000.org> - 2012-05-08 16:41 -0500
              Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-05-08 15:19 -0700
              Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) markspace <-@.> - 2012-05-08 15:21 -0700
          Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-05-08 15:05 -0700
        Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2012-05-08 19:12 -0300
          Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-05-10 19:05 -0700
        Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-05-08 21:03 -0400
          Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) markspace <-@.> - 2012-05-08 20:52 -0700
            Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2012-05-09 06:58 -0400
              Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-05-09 12:04 -0700
            Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-05-09 10:06 -0700
            Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-05-10 20:20 -0400
              Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Bent C Dalager <bcd@pvv.ntnu.no> - 2012-05-11 09:09 +0000
                Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-05-11 09:41 -0700
                Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) "javax.swing.JSnarker" <gharriman@boojum.mit.edu> - 2012-05-12 01:30 -0400
                Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Sleepy the Dwarf <std75821@gmail.com> - 2012-05-13 08:40 -0400
                Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-05-20 22:37 -0400
                Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-05-20 20:25 -0700
                Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Bent C Dalager <bcd@pvv.ntnu.no> - 2012-05-21 19:31 +0000
                Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-05-20 22:35 -0400
                Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Bent C Dalager <bcd@pvv.ntnu.no> - 2012-05-21 19:26 +0000
                Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Kev Warren <k.warren312@noobnot.notnoob.org> - 2012-05-21 17:36 -0400
      Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) markspace <-@.> - 2012-05-08 13:59 -0700
        Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-05-08 21:04 -0400
          Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) markspace <-@.> - 2012-05-08 20:54 -0700
            Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-05-10 20:23 -0400
      Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Joshua Maurice <joshuamaurice@gmail.com> - 2012-05-08 15:32 -0700
      Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-05-10 16:36 -0700
    Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-05-08 21:13 -0400
      Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2012-05-09 16:50 -0300
        Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-05-10 20:26 -0400
  Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-05-08 21:19 -0400
  Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-05-09 14:42 -0700
    Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Joshua Cranmer <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2012-05-10 17:07 -0500
    Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-05-10 20:19 -0400
      Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-05-20 22:33 -0400

csiph-web