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Re: java developers

From Rajiv Gupta <rajiv@invalid.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject Re: java developers
Date 2011-12-04 10:50 +1100
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On 2011-12-03 04:18:26 +1100, Nomen Nescio said:

> Rajiv Gupta <rajiv@invalid.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 2011-11-30 23:14:37 +1100, curixinfotech said:
>> 
>>> why java is the language of choice for Developers.
> 
> It isn't, it's *a* heavyweight system for cross platform GUI scripting.

I would beg to differ much on this point. Visual Basic supports the COM 
(Computer Open Model) and it will automatically generate code from the 
IDL (Internal Definition Language). This makes it easy to execute codes 
even inside the bowels of the operating system.

In fact, Visual Basic allows the user to create their own COM objects 
which can be consumed by operating system. This is not GUI scripting.   
I think you are confused by the VBScript which is a different thing 
(VBScript is perhaps more like Ruby or Python but considerably more 
advanced).

>> Visual Basic is very advanced language (it doesn't require line
>> numbers)
> 
> Assembly language doesn't require line numbers

Well, even if assembly language doesn't have line numbers, Visual Basic 
is superior to assembly language.  It has better font support.

> 
>> and it supports structured programming.
> 
> Structured programming is for steers and queers. Which one are you, boy?

I do not practice the perversions you nominate. I think those 
perversions are more common with Java developers.

> 
>> You cannot go wrong with it.
> 
> Oh I think you can.

Java enshrines many wrongnesses.  For example the excessive use of the 
factory pattern, like for example factory factories and factory factory 
factories.

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java developers curixinfotech <curixinfotech.540mfz@no-mx.forums.yourdomain.com.au> - 2011-11-30 07:14 -0500
  Re: java developers Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2011-11-30 07:55 -0500
    Re: java developers Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-11-30 06:32 -0800
      Re: java developers Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2011-11-30 09:41 -0800
      Re: java developers Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-12-02 17:03 -0500
        Re: java developers Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2011-12-02 14:30 -0800
          Re: java developers Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-12-02 18:40 -0500
            Re: java developers Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2011-12-03 14:42 +0000
              Re: java developers Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2011-12-03 10:09 -0500
                Re: java developers Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-12-04 22:17 -0500
              Re: java developers Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-12-04 22:11 -0500
    Re: java developers curixinfotech <curixinfotech.54dibz@no-mx.forums.yourdomain.com.au> - 2011-12-07 05:56 -0500
  Re: java developers Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-12-02 01:48 -0800
  Re: java developers Rajiv Gupta <rajiv@invalid.com> - 2011-12-02 22:16 +1100
    Re: java developers David Segall <david@address.invalid> - 2011-12-02 23:17 +1100
      Re: java developers Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-12-02 16:29 -0500
        Re: java developers David Segall <david@address.invalid> - 2011-12-03 15:15 +1100
    Re: java developers Henk van Voorthuijsen <voorth@xs4all.nl> - 2011-12-02 03:39 -0800
    Re: java developers Silvio Bierman <silvio@moc.com> - 2011-12-02 14:43 +0100
    Re: java developers Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-12-02 07:32 -0800
    Re: java developers Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2011-12-02 18:18 +0100
      Re: java developers Rajiv Gupta <rajiv@invalid.com> - 2011-12-04 10:50 +1100
        Re: java developers Wojtek <nowhere@a.com> - 2011-12-03 19:43 -0800
        Re: java developers Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-12-04 10:56 +0000
        Re: java developers Silvio Bierman <silvio@moc.com> - 2011-12-05 11:00 +0100
          Re: java developers Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-12-05 22:38 -0500
            Re: java developers Silvio Bierman <silvio@moc.com> - 2011-12-06 10:33 +0100
          Re: java developers Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li> - 2011-12-06 21:17 +0000
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    Re: java developers Silvio Bierman <silvio@moc.com> - 2011-12-03 10:51 +0100
      Re: java developers Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2011-12-03 11:41 -0400
      Re: java developers Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-12-04 22:28 -0500
        Re: java developers Silvio Bierman <silvio@moc.com> - 2011-12-05 10:31 +0100
          Re: java developers Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-12-05 22:35 -0500
            Re: java developers Silvio Bierman <silvio@moc.com> - 2011-12-06 10:25 +0100
        Re: java developers Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li> - 2011-12-06 21:10 +0000
    Re: java developers BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2011-12-05 22:52 -0800
      Re: java developers Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2011-12-06 06:49 -0400

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