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Re: java developers

From	Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca>
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Subject	Re: java developers
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Date	2011-12-06 06:49 -0400

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On 11-12-06 02:52 AM, BGB wrote:
> On Dec 2, 10:51 pm, dsnite...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Once you know one language, learning and development of other languages is a lot easier. Java as a entry level programming language is also better than say C variants because its object oriented, universal and beautiful.
>>
> 
> IMHO, Java is a C variant (or, at least, a C-family language).
> granted, my definition is wide enough here to where I loosely also
> consider JavaScript and ActionScript to be in this family as well.

 An extremely wide definition. :-) There are various lists of the "C
family of languages", some as short as half a dozen, some I've seen that
are 40 or 50 or 60, but JavaScript doesn't often feature even in the big
lists.

OTOH, what most people really mean by "C family of languages" is the
existence of curly braces. I'm only being somewhat facetious. A whole
bunch of languages that are considered to be "C family" borrow some
syntax, including curly braces, from C, but owe much more in semantics
to something other than C. So are they really in the "C family"?

> C++ is also Object Oriented, and is much closer to C, but IMHO, C++ is
> also a bit of a nasty complicated mess (and has additional drawbacks
> specific to my case), so I don't use it much.

Just my opinion, but C++ hasn't been "close" to C for years now. Not if
you're writing proper C++.

[ SNIP ]

> I am primarily a C developer, but also sometimes use Java, C#, C++/
> CLI, or my own custom language, depending on what I am doing. I am
> also not above using assembler if the task calls for it (rare, mostly
> esoteric compiler/VM stuff). I have also used Scheme and Common Lisp
> in the past as well.
> 
> sadly, there is no "perfect" language.
[ SNIP ]

No, there's not. Although often there is a "best" language, which is
dictated by factors such as programmer familiarity, what is the current
system written in, what does the client want...things like that. These
factors usually trump theoretical choices.

AHS

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