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Re: Dealing with application names in a JEE web app

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markspace wrote:
> Lew wrote:
>> I've been able to work out "all this" pretty much from
>> http://download.oracle.com/javaee/6/tutorial/doc/bnadp.html
>> the MyFaces docs and the articles in IBM DeveloperWorks.

> Thanks for pointing out those additional resources. I think right now I'm

I forgot to mention the most important one: lots of example apps that I 
created in my (copious) spare time.  I went nuts in JSF 1.something when 
"rendered='false'" on first page call would prevent a component from being in 
the tree, never to be reinserted in postback when the value flipped to 'true'. 
  They fixed that later.  I went nuts overall until I began to grok the 
six-stage component lifecycle of JSF.  I went nuts until I learned that every 
backing bean is a controller, unlike the front-controller pattern familiar to 
Model 2 and Struts mavens.  I still don't use "immediate='true'".

I must've tried every variation of URL in JSF, JSTL, jsp:useBean and such 
structures as I've learned my J{2,ava }EE skills in order to learn where 
things need to be for the app server to find them.  I still am not fully aware 
of the nuances.

> mostly concerned that the JSF 2.1 spec seems a lot less complete than the JSP
> and Servlet one, and that the book I purchased by the spec co-lead seems
> equally abbreviated. You'd think Sun (and now Oracle) would be most interested
> in making sure that accurate and complete documentation is available. "Google
> for it and read some blogs" seems like the opposite of that idea.
>
> Don't mind me though, I'm typically grumpy when I'm trying to plow my way
> through new concepts.

Curmudgeons of the world, uni- - - ah, screw it!

If programming was easy, anyone could do it.  Sometimes you just have to bang 
your (metaphorical) head against the (metaphorical) brick walls until 
something (hopefully the wall) crumbles (metaphorically).  And I truly found 
that GIMF through all that with JSF.

-- 
Lew

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Dealing with application names in a JEE web app markspace <-@.> - 2011-05-23 12:11 -0700
  Re: Dealing with application names in a JEE web app Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-23 15:30 -0400
    Re: Dealing with application names in a JEE web app markspace <-@.> - 2011-05-23 12:41 -0700
    Re: Dealing with application names in a JEE web app markspace <-@.> - 2011-05-23 13:10 -0700
      Re: Dealing with application names in a JEE web app Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-23 17:02 -0400
        Re: Dealing with application names in a JEE web app jebblue <n@n.nnn> - 2011-05-23 19:30 -0500
          Re: Dealing with application names in a JEE web app Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-23 21:13 -0400
        Re: Dealing with application names in a JEE web app markspace <-@.> - 2011-05-24 09:32 -0700
  Re: Dealing with application names in a JEE web app Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2011-05-23 19:01 -0300
  Re: Dealing with application names in a JEE web app Owen Jacobson <angrybaldguy@gmail.com> - 2011-05-23 23:20 -0400
  Re: Dealing with application names in a JEE web app Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li> - 2011-05-24 18:16 +0100
    Re: Dealing with application names in a JEE web app markspace <-@.> - 2011-05-25 12:16 -0700
      Re: Dealing with application names in a JEE web app markspace <-@.> - 2011-05-25 16:40 -0700
      Re: Dealing with application names in a JEE web app Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li> - 2011-05-26 18:07 +0100
        Re: Dealing with application names in a JEE web app Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-26 13:25 -0400
          Re: Dealing with application names in a JEE web app markspace <-@.> - 2011-05-26 12:57 -0700
            Re: Dealing with application names in a JEE web app Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-26 19:39 -0400
              Re: Dealing with application names in a JEE web app Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2011-05-27 07:31 -0300
                Re: Dealing with application names in a JEE web app Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-27 10:14 -0400
        Re: Dealing with application names in a JEE web app markspace <-@.> - 2011-05-26 12:51 -0700
        Re: Dealing with application names in a JEE web app Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> - 2011-05-26 14:51 -0700

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