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| From | Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.java.programmer |
| Subject | Re: Did the sort do anything? |
| Date | 2011-05-20 18:12 -0400 |
| Organization | albasani.net |
| Message-ID | <ir6ovh$ohb$1@news.albasani.net> (permalink) |
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > Patricia Shanahan wrote: >> Patricia Shanahan wrote: >>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>>> Patricia Shanahan wrote: >>>>> Now that we have clarified the fact that System.identityHashCode(x) is >>>>> not merely a synonym for x.hashCode(), have you changed your mind about >>>>> the need, or otherwise, for stability when sorting Java objects based >>>>> on the entire value of the object's fields? >>>> What do you think I said about “the need, or otherwise, for stability”? >>> "If, on the other hand, you were sorting immutable objects of a Java >>> “reference” type where the key was the entire object state, then >>> stability would indeed be irrelevant, notwithstanding such types are not >>> considered “primitive”." >>> >>> [http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.java.programmer/msg/17e3a8e513ceab46] >> To further refresh your memory, the question I raised was whether you >> consider System.identityHashCode(x) to be part of the "entire object >> state" of the object referenced by x. > What is the significance of sorting on a hash function? I believe Patricia is asking you that question, Lawrence. In any event, you should at least answer her question with an answer instead of another question, Lawrence. You had made some statements earlier, of which Patricia reminded you, and she wants to know if the information provided since has addressed the concerns you raised. Can you not address that first, Lawrence? Won't you please address that first, Lawrence? -- Lew
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Re: Did the sort do anything? markspace <-@.> - 2011-05-10 08:48 -0700
Re: Did the sort do anything? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-05-14 15:33 +1200
Re: Did the sort do anything? Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-14 08:56 -0400
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Re: Did the sort do anything? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-05-15 11:16 +1200
Re: Did the sort do anything? Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-14 23:24 -0400
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Re: Did the sort do anything? Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-15 07:00 -0400
Re: Did the sort do anything? Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li> - 2011-05-15 15:09 +0100
Re: Did the sort do anything? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-05-16 14:28 +1200
Re: Did the sort do anything? Joshua Cranmer <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2011-05-15 22:38 -0400
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Re: Did the sort do anything? Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-16 03:47 -0400
Re: Did the sort do anything? markspace <-@.> - 2011-05-16 14:14 -0700
Re: Did the sort do anything? Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-15 22:40 -0400
Re: Did the sort do anything? Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li> - 2011-05-16 21:31 +0100
Re: Did the sort do anything? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-05-17 09:12 +1200
Re: Did the sort do anything? Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-16 17:24 -0400
Re: Did the sort do anything? Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li> - 2011-05-17 13:26 +0100
Re: Did the sort do anything? markspace <-@.> - 2011-05-15 04:56 -0700
Re: Did the sort do anything? Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li> - 2011-05-15 15:12 +0100
Re: Did the sort do anything? markspace <-@.> - 2011-05-15 07:52 -0700
Re: Did the sort do anything? Michael Wojcik <mwojcik@newsguy.com> - 2011-05-18 11:14 -0400
Re: Did the sort do anything? Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-18 13:02 -0400
Re: Did the sort do anything? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-05-20 18:49 +1200
Re: Did the sort do anything? Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2011-05-20 00:06 -0700
Re: Did the sort do anything? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-05-20 22:37 +1200
Re: Did the sort do anything? Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-20 07:09 -0400
Re: Did the sort do anything? Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-05-10 16:11 +0000
Re: Did the sort do anything? Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@laposte-dot-net.invalid> - 2011-05-10 21:26 +0200
Re: Did the sort do anything? Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li> - 2011-05-11 21:38 +0100
Re: Did the sort do anything? Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@laposte-dot-net.invalid> - 2011-05-11 23:27 +0200
Re: Did the sort do anything? Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-05-13 07:40 -0700
Re: Did the sort do anything? Spock <spock@starfleet.ufp> - 2011-05-13 16:56 -0400
Re: Did the sort do anything? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-05-15 13:58 +1200
Re: Did the sort do anything? Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-14 23:27 -0400
Re: Did the sort do anything? Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2011-05-11 20:40 +0200
Re: Did the sort do anything? Joshua Cranmer <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2011-05-12 10:40 -0400
Re: Did the sort do anything? Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2011-05-13 03:50 -0700
Re: Did the sort do anything? Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-05-13 07:46 -0700
Re: Did the sort do anything? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-05-16 14:32 +1200
Re: Did the sort do anything? Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2011-05-15 19:50 -0700
Re: Did the sort do anything? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-05-16 17:57 +1200
Re: Did the sort do anything? "javax.swing.JSnarker" <gharriman@boojum.mit.edu> - 2011-05-16 03:35 -0400
Re: Did the sort do anything? Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-16 03:44 -0400
Re: Did the sort do anything? Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2011-05-16 03:53 -0700
Re: Did the sort do anything? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-05-17 00:02 +1200
Re: Did the sort do anything? "javax.swing.JSnarker" <gharriman@boojum.mit.edu> - 2011-05-16 08:05 -0400
Re: Did the sort do anything? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-05-17 09:12 +1200
Re: Did the sort do anything? Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-16 17:32 -0400
Re: Did the sort do anything? thoolen <thoolen@tholenbot.thorium> - 2011-05-16 18:09 -0400
Re: Did the sort do anything? Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-16 10:02 -0400
Re: Did the sort do anything? Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2011-05-16 07:16 -0700
Re: Did the sort do anything? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-05-17 09:11 +1200
Re: Did the sort do anything? Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2011-05-16 15:00 -0700
Re: Did the sort do anything? Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-16 21:08 -0400
Re: Did the sort do anything? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-05-17 19:11 +1200
Re: Did the sort do anything? Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2011-05-17 02:34 -0700
Re: Did the sort do anything? Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-17 07:19 -0400
[OT] Naming conventions. Was: Re: Did the sort do anything? Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2011-05-17 06:52 -0700
Re: Naming conventions. Was: Re: Did the sort do anything? Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2011-05-18 01:22 -0700
Re: Naming conventions. Was: Re: Did the sort do anything? Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2011-05-18 03:42 -0700
Re: Naming conventions. Was: Re: Did the sort do anything? RedGrittyBrick <RedGrittyBrick@spamweary.invalid> - 2011-05-18 11:53 +0100
Re: Naming conventions. Was: Re: Did the sort do anything? Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-18 13:07 -0400
Re: Naming conventions. Was: Re: Did the sort do anything? Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2011-05-18 10:37 -0700
Re: Naming conventions. Was: Re: Did the sort do anything? Heike Svensson <hsvensson.1093x1_q@hotmail.nospam.com.please> - 2011-05-19 01:29 -0400
Re: Naming conventions. Was: Re: Did the sort do anything? Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2011-05-19 08:28 +0200
Re: Naming conventions. Was: Re: Did the sort do anything? Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-19 08:50 -0400
OT: National stereotypes. Was Re: Naming conventions. Was: Re: Did the sort do anything? RedGrittyBrick <RedGrittyBrick@spamweary.invalid> - 2011-05-23 10:25 +0100
Re: OT: National stereotypes. Was Re: Naming conventions. Was: Re: Did the sort do anything? Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-23 09:05 -0400
Re: OT: National stereotypes. Was Re: Naming conventions. Was: Re: Did the sort do anything? RedGrittyBrick <RedGrittyBrick@spamweary.invalid> - 2011-05-23 17:17 +0100
Re: OT: National stereotypes. Was Re: Naming conventions. Was: Re: Did the sort do anything? Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-23 14:43 -0400
Re: OT: National stereotypes. Was Re: Naming conventions. Was: Re: Did the sort do anything? Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> - 2011-05-23 08:27 -0700
Re: OT: National stereotypes. Was Re: Naming conventions. Was: Re: Did the sort do anything? RedGrittyBrick <RedGrittyBrick@spamweary.invalid> - 2011-05-23 17:39 +0100
Re: OT: National stereotypes. Was Re: Naming conventions. Was: Re: Did the sort do anything? Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2011-05-23 19:16 +0200
Re: OT: National stereotypes. Was Re: Naming conventions. Was: Re: Did the sort do anything? Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-23 14:47 -0400
Re: Did the sort do anything? Boojum <boojum42@gmai1.c0m> - 2011-05-18 07:19 -0400
Re: Did the sort do anything? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-05-20 18:46 +1200
Re: Did the sort do anything? Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-20 07:10 -0400
Re: Did the sort do anything? Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-17 07:16 -0400
Re: Did the sort do anything? Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2011-05-17 06:56 -0700
Re: Did the sort do anything? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-05-20 18:46 +1200
Re: Did the sort do anything? Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-20 07:11 -0400
Re: Did the sort do anything? Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2011-05-20 05:00 -0700
Re: Did the sort do anything? Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2011-05-20 05:20 -0700
Re: Did the sort do anything? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-05-21 09:56 +1200
Re: Did the sort do anything? Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-20 18:12 -0400
Re: Did the sort do anything? Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2011-05-20 21:26 -0700
Re: Did the sort do anything? Gheerax IV <gheerax.4@gmail.invalid> - 2011-05-17 06:58 +0000
Re: Did the sort do anything? Unitary Matrix <umatrix668@gmail.com> - 2011-05-17 00:13 -0700
Re: Did the sort do anything? markspace <-@.> - 2011-05-17 07:41 -0700
Re: Did the sort do anything? Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-05-13 07:42 -0700
Re: Did the sort do anything? Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2011-05-13 21:28 +0200
Re: Did the sort do anything? Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li> - 2011-05-11 21:32 +0100
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