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Re: char to decimal

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Andreas Leitgeb wrote:
> Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> wrote:
>> On 05/06/2011 05:45 AM, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:
>>> English alphabet only
>> The English alphabet includes 'æ', 'ë', 'ö', 'œ' and other
>> such symbols not included in ASCII.
> 
> I wasn't aware of any particular "English alphabet". There's
> however the Latin alphabet, and a subset of it used in 
> English language.  Now, I'm curious about an English sentence
> using your particular samples of characters within words.

The ligatures and o-umlaut are relatively common in English
typography, particularly in books published before, say, 1950. Joshua
Cranmer already mentioned "coöperation" which (along with its lemmas)
is a prominent case of the latter.

I don't recall offhand seeing e-umlaut used in English sentences for
words that are not loan-words from other languages (though the
distinction between a loan-word and a "native" one in English is
rather vague anyway). But there may well be cases I'm not thinking of.

Whether those are part of "the English alphabet" is a question of
definition, since there is no generally-recognized authority to
provide a standard alphabet for English. At one time, "&" was part of
the alphabet, as taught in many English-speaking schools. The term
"ampersand" is a portmanteau of "and per se and", as the symbol was
then called "per se and" and it came at the end of the alphabet (so
recitation ended with "and per se and"). The letter "j" wasn't
well-established in the English alphabet until sometime in the 17th
century. And so on.

-- 
Michael Wojcik
Micro Focus
Rhetoric & Writing, Michigan State University

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char to decimal Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bruere@gmail.com> - 2011-05-05 01:43 +0100
  Re: char to decimal Knute Johnson <nospam@rabbitbrush.frazmtn.com> - 2011-05-04 17:49 -0700
  Re: char to decimal Ian Shef <invalid@avoiding.spam> - 2011-05-05 01:06 +0000
    Re: char to decimal Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-05-05 20:03 +1200
      Re: char to decimal Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-05 07:03 -0400
        Re: char to decimal Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-05-05 11:18 +0000
          Re: char to decimal Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2011-05-05 06:11 -0700
            Re: char to decimal Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-05-06 01:59 +1200
              Re: char to decimal Mayeul <mayeul.marguet@free.fr> - 2011-05-05 16:53 +0200
                Re: char to decimal Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-05-06 11:49 +1200
                Re: char to decimal Mayeul <mayeul.marguet@free.fr> - 2011-05-06 08:46 +0200
                Re: char to decimal Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-05-06 18:43 +1200
                Re: char to decimal Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-06 06:52 -0400
                Re: char to decimal Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-05-06 11:39 +0000
              Re: char to decimal Joshua Cranmer <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2011-05-05 14:13 -0400
                Re: char to decimal Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-05-06 11:49 +1200
                Re: char to decimal Mayeul <mayeul.marguet@free.fr> - 2011-05-06 08:47 +0200
                Re: char to decimal Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-05-06 18:43 +1200
                Re: char to decimal Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-06 06:54 -0400
                Re: char to decimal Jussi Piitulainen <jpiitula@ling.helsinki.fi> - 2011-05-06 10:30 +0300
              Re: char to decimal Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-05 17:05 -0400
            Re: char to decimal Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-05-05 14:56 +0000
              Re: char to decimal Paul Cager <paul.cager@googlemail.com> - 2011-05-05 11:48 -0700
                Re: char to decimal Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-05 17:06 -0400
                Re: char to decimal Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-05-05 21:28 +0000
                Re: char to decimal Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-05 17:32 -0400
                Re: char to decimal Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-05-06 08:31 +0000
          Re: char to decimal Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-05 17:04 -0400
      boolean to int : was char to decimal Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2011-05-06 09:00 -0400
        Re: boolean to int : was char to decimal Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2011-05-06 06:54 -0700
        Re: boolean to int : was char to decimal markspace <-@.> - 2011-05-06 07:07 -0700
          Re: boolean to int : was char to decimal markspace <-@.> - 2011-05-06 08:30 -0700
        Re: boolean to int : was char to decimal Nigel Wade <nmw-news@ion.le.ac.uk> - 2011-05-06 15:35 +0100
        Re: boolean to int : was char to decimal Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@laposte-dot-net.invalid> - 2011-05-06 19:12 +0200
        Re: boolean to int : was char to decimal Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2011-05-06 13:26 -0400
          Re: boolean to int : was char to decimal Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2011-05-06 21:25 -0400
          Re: boolean to int : was char to decimal Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2011-05-06 21:28 -0400
          Re: boolean to int : was char to decimal Michael Wojcik <mwojcik@newsguy.com> - 2011-05-09 12:51 -0400
            Re: boolean to int : was char to decimal Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-05-09 23:54 +0000
            Re: boolean to int : was char to decimal Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2011-05-09 20:51 -0400
              Re: boolean to int : was char to decimal Michael Wojcik <mwojcik@newsguy.com> - 2011-05-10 11:20 -0400
            Re: boolean to int : was char to decimal Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-05-10 13:47 +1200
              Re: boolean to int : was char to decimal Michael Wojcik <mwojcik@newsguy.com> - 2011-05-10 11:02 -0400
                Re: boolean to int : was char to decimal Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-05-11 14:05 +1200
                Re: boolean to int : was char to decimal Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2011-05-11 08:11 -0400
  Re: char to decimal Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bruere@gmail.com> - 2011-05-05 02:12 +0100
  Re: char to decimal Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-04 21:59 -0400
    Re: char to decimal Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bruere@gmail.com> - 2011-05-05 16:14 +0100
      Re: char to decimal markspace <-@.> - 2011-05-05 11:20 -0700
        Re: char to decimal Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-05 17:10 -0400
          Re: char to decimal Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-05-05 22:00 +0000
            Re: char to decimal Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-05 18:20 -0400
          Re: char to decimal Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bruere@gmail.com> - 2011-05-06 10:45 +0100
            Re: char to decimal Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-06 06:56 -0400
              Re: char to decimal Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-05-06 11:48 +0000
                Re: char to decimal Joshua Cranmer <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2011-05-06 08:38 -0400
                Re: char to decimal Michael Wojcik <mwojcik@newsguy.com> - 2011-05-06 09:47 -0400
                Re: char to decimal Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-06 12:02 -0400
                Re: char to decimal Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@laposte-dot-net.invalid> - 2011-05-06 19:15 +0200
                Re: char to decimal Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-06 14:01 -0400
                Re: char to decimal Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@laposte-dot-net.invalid> - 2011-05-06 20:07 +0200
                Re: O/T linguistics (Was: char to decimal) Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-06 15:28 -0400
                Re: O/T linguistics Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@laposte-dot-net.invalid> - 2011-05-06 21:44 +0200
                Re: char to decimal Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-05-06 23:57 +0000
                Re: char to decimal Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-06 12:00 -0400
              Re: char to decimal Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bruere@gmail.com> - 2011-05-06 18:29 +0100
                Re: char to decimal Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-06 14:02 -0400
                Re: char to decimal Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bruere@gmail.com> - 2011-05-07 01:09 +0100
                Re: char to decimal Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-05-07 00:18 +0000
                Re: char to decimal Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-06 21:30 -0400
  Re: char to decimal Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-05-04 22:03 -0700
    Re: char to decimal "Nasser M. Abbasi" <nma@12000.org> - 2011-05-05 01:14 -0700
    Re: char to decimal Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bruere@gmail.com> - 2011-05-05 16:15 +0100

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