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Re: O/T linguistics

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On 06/05/2011 21:28, Lew allegedly wrote:
> Daniele Futtorovic wrote:
>> Lew allegedly wrote:
>>> Daniele Futtorovic wrote:
>>>> Michael Wojcik allegedly wrote:
>>>>> Joshua Cranmer already mentioned "coöperation" which (along with its
>>>>> lemmas)
>>>>> is a prominent case of the latter.
>>>
>>>> Didn't know that, but it's preposterous. Trying to pronounce that
>>>> makes me
>>>> sound like a Saxon. ;)
>>>
>>> Trying to pronounce what is preposterous?
>>>
>>> The word "coöperation" is pronounced the way you've always pronounced
>>> it, so I cannot figure out what you mean.
>>
>> You won't get it if you don't speak German and know how they speak it
>> it the
>> further south-east. :)
>
> Is that what's called High German? I am rather fascinated by languages,
> and of course Saxon is one of the root languages of English.

Saxon in this case being a German accent.

I'm terribly embarrassed about this, actually. I know a few Saxons and 
they're generally a great people. But I always have to refrain myself 
from laughing when I hear them talk. I really hate myself for that.


> I suppose there's no way to convey the humor of an accent via a text
> medium, but I can imagine by reference to cognate American phenomena.
>
> One fascinating factoid: Not only do linguistically isolated
> communities, such as English speakers in the American Ozarks and Farsi
> speakers in the mountains of Afghanistan, retain linguistic patterns and
> accents longer than their cosmopolitan (often coastal) counterparts, the
> culture of the linguistically mixed often disparages that of their
> isolated brethren as "hillbilly" or the equivalent, and just as unfairly.

Same thing in biology. Isolated populations (e.g. insular ones) will 
generally retain traits longer than the population they split off from. 
Less "evolutionary pressure", so to speak.

-- 
DF.
An escaped convict once said to me:
"Alcatraz is the place to be"

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char to decimal Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bruere@gmail.com> - 2011-05-05 01:43 +0100
  Re: char to decimal Knute Johnson <nospam@rabbitbrush.frazmtn.com> - 2011-05-04 17:49 -0700
  Re: char to decimal Ian Shef <invalid@avoiding.spam> - 2011-05-05 01:06 +0000
    Re: char to decimal Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-05-05 20:03 +1200
      Re: char to decimal Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-05 07:03 -0400
        Re: char to decimal Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-05-05 11:18 +0000
          Re: char to decimal Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2011-05-05 06:11 -0700
            Re: char to decimal Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-05-06 01:59 +1200
              Re: char to decimal Mayeul <mayeul.marguet@free.fr> - 2011-05-05 16:53 +0200
                Re: char to decimal Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-05-06 11:49 +1200
                Re: char to decimal Mayeul <mayeul.marguet@free.fr> - 2011-05-06 08:46 +0200
                Re: char to decimal Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-05-06 18:43 +1200
                Re: char to decimal Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-06 06:52 -0400
                Re: char to decimal Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-05-06 11:39 +0000
              Re: char to decimal Joshua Cranmer <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2011-05-05 14:13 -0400
                Re: char to decimal Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-05-06 11:49 +1200
                Re: char to decimal Mayeul <mayeul.marguet@free.fr> - 2011-05-06 08:47 +0200
                Re: char to decimal Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-05-06 18:43 +1200
                Re: char to decimal Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-06 06:54 -0400
                Re: char to decimal Jussi Piitulainen <jpiitula@ling.helsinki.fi> - 2011-05-06 10:30 +0300
              Re: char to decimal Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-05 17:05 -0400
            Re: char to decimal Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-05-05 14:56 +0000
              Re: char to decimal Paul Cager <paul.cager@googlemail.com> - 2011-05-05 11:48 -0700
                Re: char to decimal Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-05 17:06 -0400
                Re: char to decimal Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-05-05 21:28 +0000
                Re: char to decimal Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-05 17:32 -0400
                Re: char to decimal Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-05-06 08:31 +0000
          Re: char to decimal Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-05 17:04 -0400
      boolean to int : was char to decimal Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2011-05-06 09:00 -0400
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        Re: boolean to int : was char to decimal markspace <-@.> - 2011-05-06 07:07 -0700
          Re: boolean to int : was char to decimal markspace <-@.> - 2011-05-06 08:30 -0700
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        Re: boolean to int : was char to decimal Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@laposte-dot-net.invalid> - 2011-05-06 19:12 +0200
        Re: boolean to int : was char to decimal Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2011-05-06 13:26 -0400
          Re: boolean to int : was char to decimal Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2011-05-06 21:25 -0400
          Re: boolean to int : was char to decimal Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2011-05-06 21:28 -0400
          Re: boolean to int : was char to decimal Michael Wojcik <mwojcik@newsguy.com> - 2011-05-09 12:51 -0400
            Re: boolean to int : was char to decimal Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-05-09 23:54 +0000
            Re: boolean to int : was char to decimal Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2011-05-09 20:51 -0400
              Re: boolean to int : was char to decimal Michael Wojcik <mwojcik@newsguy.com> - 2011-05-10 11:20 -0400
            Re: boolean to int : was char to decimal Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-05-10 13:47 +1200
              Re: boolean to int : was char to decimal Michael Wojcik <mwojcik@newsguy.com> - 2011-05-10 11:02 -0400
                Re: boolean to int : was char to decimal Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-05-11 14:05 +1200
                Re: boolean to int : was char to decimal Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2011-05-11 08:11 -0400
  Re: char to decimal Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bruere@gmail.com> - 2011-05-05 02:12 +0100
  Re: char to decimal Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-04 21:59 -0400
    Re: char to decimal Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bruere@gmail.com> - 2011-05-05 16:14 +0100
      Re: char to decimal markspace <-@.> - 2011-05-05 11:20 -0700
        Re: char to decimal Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-05 17:10 -0400
          Re: char to decimal Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-05-05 22:00 +0000
            Re: char to decimal Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-05 18:20 -0400
          Re: char to decimal Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bruere@gmail.com> - 2011-05-06 10:45 +0100
            Re: char to decimal Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-06 06:56 -0400
              Re: char to decimal Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-05-06 11:48 +0000
                Re: char to decimal Joshua Cranmer <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2011-05-06 08:38 -0400
                Re: char to decimal Michael Wojcik <mwojcik@newsguy.com> - 2011-05-06 09:47 -0400
                Re: char to decimal Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-06 12:02 -0400
                Re: char to decimal Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@laposte-dot-net.invalid> - 2011-05-06 19:15 +0200
                Re: char to decimal Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-06 14:01 -0400
                Re: char to decimal Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@laposte-dot-net.invalid> - 2011-05-06 20:07 +0200
                Re: O/T linguistics (Was: char to decimal) Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-06 15:28 -0400
                Re: O/T linguistics Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@laposte-dot-net.invalid> - 2011-05-06 21:44 +0200
                Re: char to decimal Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-05-06 23:57 +0000
                Re: char to decimal Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-06 12:00 -0400
              Re: char to decimal Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bruere@gmail.com> - 2011-05-06 18:29 +0100
                Re: char to decimal Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-06 14:02 -0400
                Re: char to decimal Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bruere@gmail.com> - 2011-05-07 01:09 +0100
                Re: char to decimal Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-05-07 00:18 +0000
                Re: char to decimal Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-06 21:30 -0400
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