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Re: "Hello world!" without a public class?

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Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:
> Lew wrote:
>> Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:
>>>>     1.) »public class HelloWorldApp« (because this is most common IIRC)
>>> This the most common they are going to run into in real life and when you get in inheritance explain the difference between the 4 options.   You should also point out (I know I will get flamed for this ;-)) that the only time you do not want to use "public" is in inner classes (which in my opinion should be outlawed anyways)
> 
>> Do you really mean just inner classes?

Well?

>> Would you ban all nested classes  outright?
> 
>> It would be a very, very boneheaded thing to outlaw inner classes. 
> 
>> You'd destroy a common idiom for declaring listeners. You'd make lambdas 
>> impossible. You'd kill one of the most expressive features of Java, that 
>> was introduced to the language in the first place because of its great 
>> power.
> 
> And get rid of one the most unreadable/widely abused parts of all Java code? 

Conclusion not in evidence.

>  Sounds good to me... almost everything done with inner/nested classes can be

Which, inner or non-inner nested?

> done cleaner with post 1.5 constructs that do not require impossible to read code.

Show the idioms you have in mind. Show how nested classes are "impossible to 
read". They aren't. Unless you don't know Java, in which case don't bother 
arguing about how to improve it. Show that what you have in mind is easier to 
read. Show how you'd do lambdas without them. For God's sake, provide some 
evidence and logic for your point.

Otherwise it's just your personal, non-engineering-based and utterly irrelevant 
opinion.

-- 
Lew

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Re: "Hello world!" without a public class? "Aryeh M. Friedman" <Aryeh.Friedman@gmail.com> - 2013-01-06 02:10 -0800
  Re: "Hello world!" without a public class? Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2013-01-06 09:43 -0800
    Re: "Hello world!" without a public class? "Aryeh M. Friedman" <Aryeh.Friedman@gmail.com> - 2013-01-06 09:51 -0800
      Re: "Hello world!" without a public class? Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2013-01-06 09:58 -0800
        Re: "Hello world!" without a public class? "Aryeh M. Friedman" <Aryeh.Friedman@gmail.com> - 2013-01-06 10:48 -0800
          Re: "Hello world!" without a public class? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-01-06 16:07 -0500
            Re: "Hello world!" without a public class? "Aryeh M. Friedman" <Aryeh.Friedman@gmail.com> - 2013-01-06 13:21 -0800
              Re: "Hello world!" without a public class? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-01-06 16:43 -0500
          Re: "Hello world!" without a public class? Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2013-01-06 17:24 -0800
      Re: "Hello world!" without a public class? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-01-06 15:59 -0500
        Re: "Hello world!" without a public class? "Aryeh M. Friedman" <Aryeh.Friedman@gmail.com> - 2013-01-06 13:22 -0800
          Re: "Hello world!" without a public class? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-01-06 16:35 -0500

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