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On 11/7/2011 10:18 PM, markspace wrote:
> On 11/7/2011 6:30 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>> You asked what problem it solves.
>>
>> Now you know what problem it solves.
>>
>> You still do not think it is a serious problem, but that is
>> a different discussion.
>
> No, I disagree with that assertion. If it's not an actual use case,
> something that doesn't actually come from a user, or solve a real user
> need, then it's just a pointless maintenance expense. Just like any
> other "feature" that nobody needs or uses, it can just be removed.

If you search the Java bug database then you will see that
SUN got lots of bug reports including some that were compiler
bugs about this feature.

Somebody did use the feature.

>> Once put in the language, then they can never remove it without breaking
>> existing code.
>
>
> My understand about these things is that they grep (*) through the code
> base of the most important customers and do an evaluation of the code
> changes required. The question is "can we afford to make the changes
> this would require?" It's a ROI question, not slavish devotion to
> backwards compatibility. Yes the holy grail is "no code changes
> required" but that isn't a given, necessarily. Sometimes you gotta break
> those eggs to make your omelet.

I find it very difficult to see why people (and their employers) that
have coded according to spec should suffer to help people that have
not studied the spec.

Arne

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unicode bob <bob@coolgroups.com> - 2011-09-12 12:24 -0700
  Re: unicode Knute Johnson <nospam@knutejohnson.com> - 2011-09-12 14:04 -0700
  Re: unicode Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-09-12 14:08 -0700
    Re: unicode Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-09-12 17:31 -0400
      Re: unicode markspace <-@.> - 2011-09-12 16:33 -0700
        Re: unicode Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-09-12 17:46 -0700
          Re: unicode markspace <-@.> - 2011-09-12 20:16 -0700
          Re: unicode Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-09-12 22:05 -0700
            Re: unicode Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-09-12 22:10 -0700
            Re: unicode Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-09-13 07:18 +0000
        Re: unicode Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-09-12 20:57 -0400
          Re: unicode markspace <-@.> - 2011-09-12 19:51 -0700
            Re: unicode Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-09-13 20:17 -0400
              Re: unicode markspace <-@.> - 2011-09-13 19:32 -0700
                Re: unicode Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-09-14 11:49 -0700
                Re: unicode Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-11-07 21:30 -0500
                Re: unicode markspace <-@.> - 2011-11-07 19:18 -0800
                Re: unicode Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-11-07 22:47 -0500
                Re: unicode markspace <-@.> - 2011-11-07 21:12 -0800
          Re: unicode Paul Cager <paul.cager@googlemail.com> - 2011-09-13 04:05 -0700
        Re: unicode Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-09-12 22:02 -0700
          Re: unicode Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-09-13 20:30 -0400
  Re: unicode Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-09-12 17:29 -0400
    Re: unicode Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-09-12 15:48 -0700

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