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Re: unicode

From	Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject	Re: unicode
Date	2011-09-12 22:10 -0700
Organization	Canadian Mind Products
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On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 22:05:19 -0700, Roedy Green
<see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted
someone who said :

>
>You can't change the meaning of existing code, but if some language
>evolved out of java it could redefine
>
>out.println( "\u000a"); 
>to have the same meaning as
>out.println( "\n"); 
>
>Though I doubt this would break many real-world programs even if you
>changed the definition in Java 1.8.

Why fix it ever?

1. the current syntax strongly violates the principle of least
surprise. It amounts to a Java newbie hazing ritual.

2. It is a pointless lack of consistency.  You have to treat some
Unicode characters in various special magic ways. This is particularly
a nuisance for code generation. For that you want as simple an
algorithm as possible to produce a String literal from a String.

It was a smart Alec idea that was not thought through far enough. It
was seductively easy to implement.
-- 
Roedy Green Canadian Mind Products
http://mindprod.com
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, 
the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.
~ John Kenneth Galbraith (born: 1908-10-15 died: 2006-04-29 at age: 97)

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  Re: unicode Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-09-12 14:08 -0700
    Re: unicode Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-09-12 17:31 -0400
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          Re: unicode Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-09-12 22:05 -0700
            Re: unicode Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-09-12 22:10 -0700
            Re: unicode Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-09-13 07:18 +0000
        Re: unicode Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-09-12 20:57 -0400
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            Re: unicode Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-09-13 20:17 -0400
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                Re: unicode Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-09-14 11:49 -0700
          Re: unicode Paul Cager <paul.cager@googlemail.com> - 2011-09-13 04:05 -0700
        Re: unicode Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-09-12 22:02 -0700
          Re: unicode Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-09-13 20:30 -0400
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