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Re: question on java lang spec chapter 3.3 (unicode char lexing)

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On Wednesday, January 2, 2013 8:42:57 PM UTC-5, Lew wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 2, 2013 5:27:21 PM UTC-8, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:
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> > A little more on the project... while the over all project *IS* for fun a few components may find there way into more serious work related projects but only to be used on code written by me or others on my team... specifically we may use the lexing/parsing component to make the following tools (the actual code generation/etc. of the compilation is currently purely fun [see note]):
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> And your team can't use a real Java compiler because ... ?
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> > 1. Scan for a complete list of classes referenced by a given class (our build system sometimes hiccups on not realizing that when class X calls an instance of class Y and Y has been modified it needs to recompile X {if, and only  if, the signature(s) have changed})
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> There are standard build systems that handle this. What do you use?

Aegis/cook (aegis.sf.net) and the issue is not the build system per se but how most build system deals the split source view aegis provides (which the aegis documentation correctly points out *ALMOST* no build system deals with correctly except for cook)... i.e. every build system makes the assumes that there is a single definition of each compilation unit where aegis makes it so the current version and all previous versions are available (this makes tracking what changes have been made much easier then say cvs/svn/git besides none of them are truly atomic interms of commits {you have to prove your code works before committing it and this is enforced by the VC system).

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> > 2. Do some minor style enforcement like warning (have not decided if it should reject or just warn) if a class/method does not have something that at least looks like a javadoc header comment (/** ... */ is sufficient for this purpose)
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> Lint. Findbugs. And more. Why reinvent the wheel?

Because there are other style issues that are not enforced (but are propitiatory) that make those unusable

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> > A long term personal project of mine is to write a OS completely from the ground up in a super set of Java (the only addition I see that is needed is some type of "safe" pointer type)... in this case safe being defined as you can assign a literal address to it but your not allowed to do ptr math on it
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> Also known as "a JVM"?

As far I know the JVM can not be directly booted (as in if I turn on my PC it can not boot into the JVM)... neither for performance reasons does it make sense to run a VM at the bottom layer... an other reason is there is a lot of junk in the JRE (like how do you do garbage collection if you do not have some way of the OS allocating mem to a process in the first place)
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question on java lang spec chapter 3.3 (unicode char lexing) "Aryeh M. Friedman" <Aryeh.Friedman@gmail.com> - 2013-01-02 00:20 -0800
  Re: question on java lang spec chapter 3.3 (unicode char lexing) "Aryeh M. Friedman" <Aryeh.Friedman@gmail.com> - 2013-01-02 00:24 -0800
    Re: question on java lang spec chapter 3.3 (unicode char lexing) Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2013-01-02 12:24 -0800
  Re: question on java lang spec chapter 3.3 (unicode char lexing) Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2013-01-02 11:16 -0800
    Re: question on java lang spec chapter 3.3 (unicode char lexing) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-01-02 19:55 -0500
      Re: question on java lang spec chapter 3.3 (unicode char lexing) Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2013-01-02 17:21 -0800
        Re: question on java lang spec chapter 3.3 (unicode char lexing) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-01-02 20:40 -0500
  Re: question on java lang spec chapter 3.3 (unicode char lexing) Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2013-01-02 11:17 -0800
    Re: question on java lang spec chapter 3.3 (unicode char lexing) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-01-02 19:56 -0500
      Re: question on java lang spec chapter 3.3 (unicode char lexing) "Aryeh M. Friedman" <Aryeh.Friedman@gmail.com> - 2013-01-02 17:27 -0800
        Re: question on java lang spec chapter 3.3 (unicode char lexing) "Aryeh M. Friedman" <Aryeh.Friedman@gmail.com> - 2013-01-02 17:32 -0800
        Re: question on java lang spec chapter 3.3 (unicode char lexing) Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2013-01-02 17:42 -0800
          Re: question on java lang spec chapter 3.3 (unicode char lexing) "Aryeh M. Friedman" <Aryeh.Friedman@gmail.com> - 2013-01-02 17:55 -0800
            Re: question on java lang spec chapter 3.3 (unicode char lexing) "Aryeh M. Friedman" <Aryeh.Friedman@gmail.com> - 2013-01-02 18:02 -0800
              Re: question on java lang spec chapter 3.3 (unicode char lexing) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-01-02 21:12 -0500
                Re: question on java lang spec chapter 3.3 (unicode char lexing) "Aryeh M. Friedman" <Aryeh.Friedman@gmail.com> - 2013-01-02 18:16 -0800
                Re: question on java lang spec chapter 3.3 (unicode char lexing) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-01-02 21:20 -0500
                Re: question on java lang spec chapter 3.3 (unicode char lexing) "Aryeh M. Friedman" <Aryeh.Friedman@gmail.com> - 2013-01-02 18:22 -0800
                Re: question on java lang spec chapter 3.3 (unicode char lexing) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-01-02 21:26 -0500
                Re: question on java lang spec chapter 3.3 (unicode char lexing) "Aryeh M. Friedman" <Aryeh.Friedman@gmail.com> - 2013-01-02 18:27 -0800
                Re: question on java lang spec chapter 3.3 (unicode char lexing) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-01-02 21:46 -0500
                Re: question on java lang spec chapter 3.3 (unicode char lexing) "Aryeh M. Friedman" <Aryeh.Friedman@gmail.com> - 2013-01-02 20:41 -0800
                Re: question on java lang spec chapter 3.3 (unicode char lexing) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-01-06 21:54 -0500
            Re: question on java lang spec chapter 3.3 (unicode char lexing) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-01-02 21:15 -0500
              Re: question on java lang spec chapter 3.3 (unicode char lexing) "Aryeh M. Friedman" <Aryeh.Friedman@gmail.com> - 2013-01-02 18:20 -0800
        Re: question on java lang spec chapter 3.3 (unicode char lexing) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-01-02 21:17 -0500
        Re: question on java lang spec chapter 3.3 (unicode char lexing) Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2013-01-02 22:33 -0800
          Re: question on java lang spec chapter 3.3 (unicode char lexing) "Chris Uppal" <chris.uppal@metagnostic.REMOVE-THIS.org> - 2013-01-05 12:58 +0000
            Re: question on java lang spec chapter 3.3 (unicode char lexing) "Aryeh M. Friedman" <Aryeh.Friedman@gmail.com> - 2013-01-05 05:34 -0800
              Re: question on java lang spec chapter 3.3 (unicode char lexing) "Aryeh M. Friedman" <Aryeh.Friedman@gmail.com> - 2013-01-05 05:40 -0800
              Re: question on java lang spec chapter 3.3 (unicode char lexing) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-01-06 21:56 -0500
      Re: question on java lang spec chapter 3.3 (unicode char lexing) Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2013-01-03 21:14 +0000
        Re: question on java lang spec chapter 3.3 (unicode char lexing) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-01-03 17:51 -0500
          Re: question on java lang spec chapter 3.3 (unicode char lexing) "Aryeh M. Friedman" <Aryeh.Friedman@gmail.com> - 2013-01-03 20:54 -0800
            Re: question on java lang spec chapter 3.3 (unicode char lexing) Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2013-01-05 00:15 +0000
            Re: question on java lang spec chapter 3.3 (unicode char lexing) "Chris Uppal" <chris.uppal@metagnostic.REMOVE-THIS.org> - 2013-01-05 13:03 +0000
              Re: question on java lang spec chapter 3.3 (unicode char lexing) "Aryeh M. Friedman" <Aryeh.Friedman@gmail.com> - 2013-01-05 05:25 -0800
                Re: question on java lang spec chapter 3.3 (unicode char lexing) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-01-06 21:49 -0500
                Re: question on java lang spec chapter 3.3 (unicode char lexing) "Aryeh M. Friedman" <Aryeh.Friedman@gmail.com> - 2013-01-06 23:26 -0800
            Re: question on java lang spec chapter 3.3 (unicode char lexing) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-01-06 21:44 -0500
  Re: question on java lang spec chapter 3.3 (unicode char lexing) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-01-02 19:54 -0500

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