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On 19 mai, 00:26, Lew <no...@lewscanon.com> wrote:
> Michael Doubez wrote:
> > Lew wrote:
> >> bugbear wrote:
> >>> Lew wrote:
> >>>> Joe, if you want to discuss this with people who will take your question
> >>>> seriously, please feel free to do so. I apologize that I do not know how
> >>>> to answer your question, but I support your right to ask it. At least
> >>>> among us practical-minded folk.
>
> >>> One might wonder why the comp hierarchy is split at all, following your "logic"
>
> >> I guess that depends on one's commitment to helping fellow programmers.  I
> >> believe if you don't want to answer the OP in this thread, that you're being
> >> insufficiently helpful.  Shame on you if true, because that means you want to
> >> enforce some petty and arbitrary limit rather than help.
>
> > Argumentum ad misericordiam
>
> Misidentification of fallacy.

So you say.

> I'd already made the point that it's relevant
> to one of the groups to which the OP posted, namely clj.programmer.

I know java language is very large but AFAIS os tools like nslookup
are not part of it and the OP's question is not related to
programming.

> The
> "programmer" part of that means that it's not about the language as such, but
> the skills needed to use it effectively.  I had argued that the question is
> relevant there.

The programmer part uses many skills, each of them can be classified
in its related newsgroup. Nslookup is a os related problem. I may
search in-depth at home and go to my os' newsgroup to ask the right
people and not only to those that happen to be here.

>  The appeal to sympathy is to show that the line was being
> drawn arbitrarily fine.

So you are basically saying that the sympathy proves something about
the width of the line being drawn. That's basically ad misericordiam.

>  Nowhere am I suggesting that the discussion veer from
> the subject of the newsgroup,  I only suggest that people not be such
> namby-pamby nitpickers and be so doggedly exclusionary.

> So while you show off your Latin quite nicely, it's irrelevant.

That's the name of the sophism classification. I can't help it if it
is in latin. Like the sophism, you are using now: ad hominem
(dismissing what I said because of the use of latin supposedly chosen
for showing off).

> > The reason why the people here are so helpful and the group is still
> > alive is because some people do care enough to keep the discussions on
> > topic.
>
> I don't know where your "here" is, but in this thread I'm arguing against the
> people who are NOT being "so helpful".

Here is comp.lang.c++ but I expect that OP posted in other helpful
groups.

> > If it wasn't the case you wouldn't be able to ask your question here
> > because everybody would be too busy chatting and exchanging reciepes.
> > You would then have to ask elsewhere, which is exactely what the OP is
> > invited to do.
>
> And also the OP is being invited EXACTLY to continue to post "here" for one
> value of "here".

Well, keep your "here" as comp.lang.java.programmer and please stop
cross posting.

--
Michael

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  Re: Nslookup "Fred Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@KVI.nl> - 2011-05-16 14:56 +0200
    Re: Nslookup Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-16 13:22 -0400
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        Re: Nslookup Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-16 21:15 -0400
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                Re: Nslookup thingamabob <thingamabob117@gmai1.c0m> - 2011-05-20 00:07 -0400
                Re: Nslookup The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-05-19 11:19 +0100
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                Re: Nslookup thingamabob <thingamabob117@gmai1.c0m> - 2011-05-19 12:44 -0400
                Re: Nslookup Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-19 10:08 -0400
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                Re: Nslookup Bill B <me@privacy.net> - 2011-05-17 11:10 -0400
                Re: Nslookup The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-05-17 16:20 +0100
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                Re: Nslookup The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-05-17 14:08 +0100
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