Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!nx02.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!69.16.185.11.MISMATCH!npeer01.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!postnews.google.com!hg8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Michael Doubez Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: Nslookup Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 00:42:49 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 91 Message-ID: <383dccd4-4e1f-46ac-a098-7767b2ffd543@hg8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> References: <9973d98a-f6db-4908-8651-575affbfbdf4@q32g2000yqn.googlegroups.com> <2pydnQEfsN0cGE7QnZ2dnUVZ8g-dnZ2d@brightview.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.160.54.163 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1305790969 20386 127.0.0.1 (19 May 2011 07:42:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 07:42:49 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: hg8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com; posting-host=62.160.54.163; posting-account=4_dwSAoAAAD_OEYz89wEMQOvnJlm6isC User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:2.0.1) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/4.0.1,gzip(gfe) Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.java.programmer:4281 On 19 mai, 00:26, Lew wrote: > Michael Doubez wrote: > > Lew wrote: > >> bugbear wrote: > >>> Lew wrote: > >>>> Joe, if you want to discuss this with people who will take your ques= tion > >>>> seriously, please feel free to do so. I apologize that I do not know= how > >>>> to answer your question, but I support your right to ask it. At leas= t > >>>> among us practical-minded folk. > > >>> One might wonder why the comp hierarchy is split at all, following yo= ur "logic" > > >> I guess that depends on one's commitment to helping fellow programmers= . =A0I > >> believe if you don't want to answer the OP in this thread, that you're= being > >> insufficiently helpful. =A0Shame on you if true, because that means yo= u want to > >> enforce some petty and arbitrary limit rather than help. > > > Argumentum ad misericordiam > > Misidentification of fallacy. So you say. > I'd already made the point that it's relevant > to one of the groups to which the OP posted, namely clj.programmer. I know java language is very large but AFAIS os tools like nslookup are not part of it and the OP's question is not related to programming. >=A0The > "programmer" part of that means that it's not about the language as such,= but > the skills needed to use it effectively. =A0I had argued that the questio= n is > relevant there. The programmer part uses many skills, each of them can be classified in its related newsgroup. Nslookup is a os related problem. I may search in-depth at home and go to my os' newsgroup to ask the right people and not only to those that happen to be here. > =A0The appeal to sympathy is to show that the line was being > drawn arbitrarily fine. So you are basically saying that the sympathy proves something about the width of the line being drawn. That's basically ad misericordiam. > =A0Nowhere am I suggesting that the discussion veer from > the subject of the newsgroup, =A0I only suggest that people not be such > namby-pamby nitpickers and be so doggedly exclusionary. > So while you show off your Latin quite nicely, it's irrelevant. That's the name of the sophism classification. I can't help it if it is in latin. Like the sophism, you are using now: ad hominem (dismissing what I said because of the use of latin supposedly chosen for showing off). > > The reason why the people here are so helpful and the group is still > > alive is because some people do care enough to keep the discussions on > > topic. > > I don't know where your "here" is, but in this thread I'm arguing against= the > people who are NOT being "so helpful". Here is comp.lang.c++ but I expect that OP posted in other helpful groups. > > If it wasn't the case you wouldn't be able to ask your question here > > because everybody would be too busy chatting and exchanging reciepes. > > You would then have to ask elsewhere, which is exactely what the OP is > > invited to do. > > And also the OP is being invited EXACTLY to continue to post "here" for o= ne > value of "here". Well, keep your "here" as comp.lang.java.programmer and please stop cross posting. -- Michael