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Re: Java vs C++

From	Owen Jacobson <angrybaldguy@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.java.programmer
Message-ID	<2011020510425674637-angrybaldguy@gmailcom> (permalink)
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Subject	Re: Java vs C++
Date	2011-02-05 10:42 -0500

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On 2011-02-05 06:15:07 -0500, Lawrence D'Oliveiro said:

> This PDF copy of “The Java Language Specification”, 3rd Edition, that I’m
> currently reading, has 684 pages. By comparison, the paper copy of “The C++
> Standard” on my bookshelf has 782 numbered pages. As you can see, Java is no
> longer that far off C++ in complexity.

This is an extremely dubious measure of complexity. The Common Lisp 
specification is over a thousand pages long in some editions*, but Lisp 
is generally considered a much simpler language than either C++ or Java.

You've posted extensively about things you see in Java that you don't 
like, and there's a strong "C++ is better" undercurrent to your posts. 
While I disagree with the undercurrent, I will defend to the death your 
right to program in C++ instead. Just, please, go away.

-o

* <http://www.cs.cmu.edu/Groups/AI/html/cltl/cltl2.html>, which 
predates the ANSI spec.

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Re: Java vs C++ Owen Jacobson <angrybaldguy@gmail.com> - 2011-02-05 10:42 -0500
  Re: Java vs C++ Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-02-08 09:22 +1300
    Re: Java vs C++ Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-02-07 19:57 -0500
  Re: Java vs C++ Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-02-07 19:56 -0500
    Re: Java vs C++ Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-02-08 16:06 +1300
      Re: Java vs C++ Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-02-07 22:17 -0500
  Re: Java vs C++ Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-02-07 12:23 +1300
    Re: Java vs C++ Joshua Cranmer <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2011-02-07 07:37 -0500
    Re: Java vs C++ Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-02-06 20:08 -0500
  Re: Java vs C++ Helium Balloon <hb.3459s._jsf3k@goo.abvg> - 2011-02-06 19:55 -0500
  Re: Java vs C++ Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-02-07 13:29 +1300
  Re: Java vs C++ Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2011-02-06 09:34 -0400

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