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[update] Re: I just do not fskn believe...!... THE absurdity installed by "Wolfgang M. Weyand" <wolf@eternal-september.org>[Paul G Derbyshire Usenet Presence August 2011] "murphy" <grvtuenu@debbil.hunt.org.invalid> - 2011-09-12 03:28 +0000
Re: I just do not fskn believe...!... THE absurdity installed by "Wolfgang M. Weyand" <wolf@eternal-september.org>[Paul G Derbyshire Usenet Presence August 2011] thoolen <tholen01@gmail.com> - 2011-09-11 21:46 -0700
Ten years ago today, bin Laden destroyed America. All mourn. (was Re: [update]) Deeyana <d.awlberg@hotmail.invalid> - 2011-09-12 05:54 +0000
Ten years ago today, bin Laden destroyed America. All mourn. (was Re: [update]) "Deeyana" <d.awlberg@hotmail.invalid> - 2011-09-12 06:54 +0000
Re: Ten years ago today, bin Laden destroyed America. All mourn. (was Re: [update]) thoolen <tholen01@gmail.com> - 2011-09-12 04:40 -0700
Re: Ten years ago today, bin Laden destroyed America. All mourn. (was Re: [update]) "thoolen" <th00len@th0lenbot.thorium> - 2011-09-12 08:46 -0400
Re: Ten years ago today, bin Laden destroyed America. All mourn. (was Re: [update]) thoolen <tholen01@gmail.com> - 2011-09-12 21:02 -0700
Re: Ten years ago today, bin Laden destroyed America. All mourn. (was Re: [update]) "tholen@antispam.ham" <tholen@ifa.hawaii.edu> - 2011-09-12 15:25 -0700
Re: Ten years ago today, bin Laden destroyed America. All mourn. (was Re: [update]) thoolen <tholen01@gmail.com> - 2011-09-12 20:37 -0700
Re: Ten years ago today, bin Laden destroyed America. All mourn. (was Re: [update]) "tholen@antispam.ham" <tholen@ifa.hawaii.edu> - 2011-09-12 15:18 -0700
Re: Ten years ago today, bin Laden destroyed America. All mourn. (was Re: [update]) Deeyana <d.awlberg@hotmail.invalid> - 2011-09-13 00:42 +0000
Re: Ten years ago today, bin Laden destroyed America. All mourn. (was Re: [update]) Deeyana <d.awlberg@hotmail.invalid> - 2011-09-13 00:46 +0000
Re: Ten years ago today, bin Laden destroyed America. All mourn. (was Re: [update]) Deeyana <d.awlberg@hotmail.invalid> - 2011-09-13 00:48 +0000
Re: Ten years ago today, bin Laden destroyed America. All mourn. (was Re: [update]) "tholen@antispam.ham" <tholen@ifa.hawaii.edu> - 2011-09-19 15:27 -0700
Re: Ten years ago today, bin Laden destroyed America. All mourn. (was Re: [update]) Deeyana <d.awlberg@hotmail.invalid> - 2011-09-22 00:18 +0000
Re: Ten years ago today, bin Laden destroyed America. All mourn. (was Re: [update]) "tholen@antispam.ham" <tholen@ifa.hawaii.edu> - 2011-09-21 19:47 -0700
Re: Ten years ago today, bin Laden destroyed America. All mourn.(was Re: [update]) "tholen@antispam.ham" <tholen@ifa.hawaii.edu> - 2011-09-19 15:40 -0700
Re: Ten years ago today, bin Laden destroyed America. All mourn.(was Re: [update]) thoolen <tholen01@gmail.com> - 2011-09-26 15:29 -0700
Re: Ten years ago Bush and Cheney Betrayed the USA * US * - 2011-09-27 07:27 -0400
Re: Ten years ago Bush and Cheney Betrayed the USA "tholen@antispam.ham" <tholen@ifa.hawaii.edu> - 2011-09-27 06:23 -0700
Re: Ten years ago Bush and Cheney Betrayed the USA * US * - 2011-09-27 11:22 -0400
Re: Ten years ago Bush and Cheney Betrayed the USA "tholen@antispam.ham" <tholen@ifa.hawaii.edu> - 2011-09-27 11:56 -0700
Re: Ten years ago Bush and Cheney Betrayed the USA * US * - 2011-09-28 07:07 -0400
Re: Ten years ago Bush and Cheney Betrayed the USA "tholen@antispam.ham" <tholen@ifa.hawaii.edu> - 2011-09-28 06:30 -0700
Re: Ten years ago Bush and Cheney Betrayed the USA * US * - 2011-09-28 10:41 -0400
Re: Ten years ago Bush and Cheney Betrayed the USA "tholen@antispam.ham" <tholen@ifa.hawaii.edu> - 2011-09-28 15:17 -0700
Re: Ten years ago Bush and Cheney Betrayed the USA * US * - 2011-09-29 08:28 -0400
Re: Ten years ago Bush and Cheney Betrayed the USA "tholen@antispam.ham" <tholen@ifa.hawaii.edu> - 2011-09-29 11:00 -0700
Re: Ten years ago Bush and Cheney Betrayed the USA * US * - 2011-09-29 21:09 -0400
Re: Ten years ago Bush and Cheney Betrayed the USA "tholen@antispam.ham" <tholen@ifa.hawaii.edu> - 2011-09-30 08:31 -0700
Re: Ten years ago Bush and Cheney Betrayed the USA * US * - 2011-09-30 17:30 -0400
Re: Ten years ago Bush and Cheney Betrayed the USA "tholen@antispam.ham" <tholen@ifa.hawaii.edu> - 2011-11-04 16:46 -0700
Re: Ten years ago Bush and Cheney Betrayed the USA * US * - 2011-11-04 20:08 -0400
Re: Ten years ago Bush and Cheney Betrayed the USA dizzy <dizzy@nospam.invalid> - 2011-11-05 08:00 -0500
Re: Ten years ago Bush and Cheney Betrayed the USA * US * - 2011-11-05 11:30 -0400
Re: Ten years ago Bush and Cheney Betrayed the USA "tholen@antispam.ham" <tholen@ifa.hawaii.edu> - 2011-11-10 15:24 -0800
Re: If it's electronic, it's not your ballot. * US * - 2011-11-12 06:59 -0500
Re: Ten years ago Bush and Cheney Betrayed the USA Four of Seventeen <fseventeen@gmail.com> - 2011-11-07 08:54 -0800
Re: Ten years ago Bush and Cheney Betrayed the USA * US * - 2011-11-08 09:09 -0500
Re: Ten years ago Bush and Cheney Betrayed the USA "tholen@antispam.ham" <tholen@ifa.hawaii.edu> - 2011-11-10 15:35 -0800
Re: No OS is suitable for use in elections. * US * - 2011-11-12 06:59 -0500
Re: Ten years ago Bush and Cheney Betrayed the USA "tholen@antispam.ham" <tholen@ifa.hawaii.edu> - 2011-11-10 15:36 -0800
Re: Ten years ago Bush and Cheney Betrayed the USA Four of Seventeen <fseventeen@gmail.com> - 2011-11-10 16:25 -0800
Re: Restore Real Ballots * US * - 2011-11-12 06:59 -0500
Re: [update] Re: I just do not fskn believe...!... 00101010 <zerozeroonezeroonezeroonezero@h2g2.cazoola> - 2011-09-12 03:41 -0400
Re: [update] Re: I just do not fskn believe...!... ClassCastException <zjkg3d9gj56@gmail.invalid> - 2011-09-12 09:10 +0000
Re: [update] Re: I just do not fskn believe...!... Cthun <cthun_117@qmail.net.au> - 2011-09-12 05:17 -0400
Re: [update] Re: I just do not fskn believe...!... "Cthun" <cthun_117@qmail.net.au> - 2011-09-12 06:35 -0400
Re: [update] Re: I just do not fskn believe...!... Cor <cor@spammesenseless.nl> - 2011-09-12 10:28 +0000
Re: [update] Re: I just do not fskn believe...!... Cthun <cthun_117@qmail.net.au> - 2011-09-12 07:26 -0400
Re: [update] Re: I just do not fskn believe...!... "Cthun" <cthun_117@qmail.net.au> - 2011-09-12 08:48 -0400
Re: [update] Re: I just do not fskn believe...!... thoolen <th00len@th0lenbot.thorium> - 2011-09-12 20:55 -0400
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| From | "murphy" <grvtuenu@debbil.hunt.org.invalid> |
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| Date | 2011-09-12 03:28 +0000 |
| Subject | [update] Re: I just do not fskn believe...!... THE absurdity installed by "Wolfgang M. Weyand" <wolf@eternal-september.org>[Paul G Derbyshire Usenet Presence August 2011] |
| Message-ID | <r47tling_Derbyshire_cods@4ax.com> |
0n Mon, 1 Aug 2011 I [murphy] wrote in
<j16bcp$33t$1@dont-email.me> showing electronic tracking of
Paul G Derbysh!re's newest adventure into trolling AFN with:
> Message-ID: <j15aqs$9lf$2@dont-email.me>
> Injection-Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 04:42:04 +0000 (UTC)
> Injection-Info: mx04.eternal-september.org;
> posting-host="nWgYBzPiz8NHWqVFL3Lc/Q";
>
> Message-ID: <j15qj4$rsi$1@dont-email.me>
> Injection-Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 09:11:00 +0000 (UTC)
> Injection-Info: mx04.eternal-september.org;
> posting-host="nWgYBzPiz8NHWqVFL3Lc/Q"
>
> Message-ID: <j160qm$mta$1@speranza.aioe.org>
> Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 06:57:25 -0400
> NNTP-Posting-Host: yifYu5jjQd240fPnOtRJZg.user.speranza.aioe.org
>
> Message-ID: <j14v1i$3pv$1@speranza.aioe.org>
> Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 21:20:51 -0400
> NNTP-Posting-Host: yifYu5jjQd240fPnOtRJZg.user.speranza.aioe.org
>
>Paolo AND Ray!
[update]
I subsequently wrote Wolfgang (wolf @eternal-september.org) and asked this question -
"How do I ask why this poster is being
ignored, prompting a reply that makes sense?
The answer to which now leads to this post being made, despite some loose (avoiding)
exchanges (eMails) being made in denying Wolfgang the out
of "running from the problem".
The answer being -
"There is a server rule that automatically bans users who use more than
5 different nyms within 10 consecutive days.
Sounds reasonable, doesn't it? The user in question (as neither you nor
I know his real identity, the names don't matter) has so far managed to
avoid hitting this limit."
Now. there are a number of issues which could be addressed in that
statement, I point to what I see as the two prime issues, for Usenet and
for the perspective held by regulars who have contributed profusely to AFN in
years past, and, maybe see no reason not to continue despite the Noise from
vagrants/miscreants/trolls... and the clinically insane.
The two issues being:
1. The absurdity of such a policy
2. The Truth of "neither you nor I know his real identity"
Reversing the order - for clarity - I address "know" in setting an ambience
of candid veracity for this work (publication).
It would be to easy for those so inclined to look at the posts of
"Ray Banana" <rayban @banana.shacknet.nu> and think "Ray knows".
Equally for those following the bouncing ball(s) I have posted around
Derbysh!re's activity in AFN (with links as provenance) it would be quite
reasonable for those enlightened gals 'n' guys to think
"murphy/phlatArse knows".
Not good enough people.
Wolfgang is using the legalese "know" not the anecdotal "know".
Simply put, Wolfgang is saying;
"put a document before me which identifies
Paul G Derbysh!re as *any* of the posters you
claim him to be and I _may_ look at the activity.
So it is *all* of the arguments offered thusfar can be seen (as an excuse
to do nothing) as "armchair attorneys" and/or "Usenet vigilantes" posting
_opinion_ on Derbysh!re's activity.
Despite the fact logs from <news.eternal-september.org> would easily
reveal the dynamics of the DNS range Derbysh!re uses, despite the fact
seven clearly identifiable disconnected posters from five Countries
(Ireland, Norway, USA, Canada, Australia) have published the
provenance over many years, despite the fact Derbysh!re himself has
published his own "outing"
in MiD: <0941e52b-d50a-4bc8-aa3f-930955de146c@d42g2000prb.googlegroups.com>
http://preview.tinyurl.com/PGDerbysh!reSpeaks
http://groups.google.com/groups/search?as_q=&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&num=100&scoring=
&lr=&as_sitesearch=&as_qdr=&as_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_miny=2011&as_maxd=1&as_maxm=1
&as_maxy=2011&as_ugroup=&as_usubject
=&as_uauthors=pgderb%40gmail.com&safe=off
- despite *all* that - there is no way Wolfgang can *know* until he
himself goes looking.
What is the degree of difficulty?
The information is "public domain", has been for some years.
And not 'hidden', at all.. as the "bricks and mortar" would easily be
discovered by the person holding the information of server access AND
"six years as a NSP Admin" - Wolfgang's own words.
Wolfgang himself will tell you there is nothing "illegal" (in any terms) in
searching out and publishing a person's Name and eMail address - read the
ES TOS for proof. So there is no legal impediment to searching.
So, what is the problem for Wolfgang in looking?
Laziness, with a hint of a fear from repercussions, all same what Neal Hubbard
[Cap'n Neal - Greg Hall (Squeaky] dished out in his tissy fits, when removed
from Wolfgang's server.
The latter is easily dealt with by an Administration, the former is incurable.
So it is I say I find it not acceptable (to me, personally) for NSP
Administrators to expect, as a default situation, that the members of NGs
have the responsibility of searching out and proving "know",
when it is the NSP who has the only legally accessible database which holds the
proof a vagrant/miscreant/troll is indeed ^whom^ the complainant points to.
Worse, refusing to act until "know" is proved is just not good enough.
The activity _should be_ ample evidence to prompt the Administrator to
contact the subscriber and warn the person.
Wolfgang refuses to do this simple step which would have an immediate effect.
His reasoning, so he says, is that such a slap would create a "Hannibal Lector"
type Derbysh!re. Wolfgang is way too late in using that excuse, Derbysh!re is
certifiable, has been for years - as the public record well displays 8-/
Wolfgang used similar excuse to deny warning "Git_RDunn <Git_RDunn@kh.kh>"
back in 2008 for his "Jihad" on <alt.binaries.news-server-comparison>, saying in:
Message-ID:<58857.193.243.189.117.1221123438.squirrel@banana.shacknet.nu>
"I do not think people like GitRDunn (or Greg Hall/Wesley
Mouch/Gloria) are susceptible to hints, advice or warnings.
They do, however, understand a "502 Permission denied". I have
just noticed that GitRDunn's postings are in violation of
Motzarella's TOS, as the domain hk.hk does not exist."
11 Sep 2008
"Git_RDunn" continued on in his campaign to undo what was then an attempt
to revive <abnsc>, He didn't see out 2009, spending his last days frothing
and ranting at posters.. dying in the traces, so to
speak. Today <abnsc> is dead for the purpose it was created, all over
Usenet advice on "which NSP do I buy"
is delivered "engroupe". It is very rare to see an enquiry in <abnsc>.
"Git_RDunn" took the task his buddies set, some four years previous, to his grave.
Derbysh!re is ~35, of sustainable physical fitness, fully supported by the
State in his 20/7 thrashing of keyboards. One can only wonder just what will
be the final impact on the Sci-Fi, TV fan, Java and gamers NGs he
plagues, daily, before the "white-coats" decide to completely restrain
his person to a padded cell.
I supply the list of names used by Derbysh!re in AFN since 2008. Others in
groups away from AFN should recognise many of them as being "kill-filed".
The list is not a complete list as I limited the search to two parameters:
a.) those electronically linked by Host - from the same node on that day
b.) those still available on servers today and thus easily verifiable
All of course are searchable through Google Advanced Search -
http://groups.google.com/advanced_search?q=&
. an onerous task (for some) the records none-the-less stand, irrefutable.
As there is no point to checking which are "live" I have disabled the
addresses, saving networks the load of pinging through Spammers.
Canuck <canuck107 @canada.xyz>
Cthun <cthun_117 @qmail.net.au>
Chad Carmichael <c_carm10782.x @y.z>
dark-zark-fark <dzf190485 @rutgers.edu>
Deep Green <d_green11908 @gmail.com> (forgery)
Deeyana <d.awlberg @hotmail.invalid>
De Lurker <delancey_s113 @harvard.nospam.invalid>
Derek Yancey <dy190295683 @nospam.invalid>
Extravagan <extravagan @frogsoup.xelon.com>
Ferdinand the -14th <foo @bar.invalid>
Fuschia, President-Elect of the Bright Purplish-Green Council <fp-eotbp-gc @ibm.com>
George Arctos <g.arctos11 @hormair.cor>
Greg Kelly <gkelly101_4 @gmai1.c0m>
Greg Sandoval <g_sandoval @gcsma.edu.br>
Gheerax IV <gheerax.4 @gmail.invalid>
Handkea fumosa <hfumosa @gmail.com>
Hieronymus S. Freely <hsfreely @xavier.uwsc.edu>
Hydrocon <hcon77107 @geemail.corn>
Henry Harrison <hharr.1082 @quux.bar.foo>
Henderson <h1 @g1.f1>
Heike Svensson <hsvensson.1093x1_q @hotmail.nospam.com.please>
Harry Greer <h_greer_1099348 @gmail.xxx>
Janie Zanie <jjezebel916 @gmai1.invalid>
Jerry Gerrone <scuzwalla @gmail.com>
John Kirkpatrick XVII <jkxvii @ask.me>
Katie Gerrolds <k.gerrolds @nbfinlan.net>
Kevin Hadron <kh_mu_meson @q.us>
kensi <kensi_kensington @zoonoses.de>
KitKat <kitkat_11697 @gmail.example.com>
Meerkats <mk_ultra.19018 @gmail.com> (forgery)
Mister Scott <m_scott.19477b @noggles.corn>
Mrs. Danforth <danforth_a @hotmail.coo>
Mike Faramis <m_faramis808 @qmail.nospam.net>
Mamac <mmc.19384_b @gmai1.com>
Nancy 3 <n3 @gmai1.c0m>
Nancy 4 <n4 @gmai1.c0m> (forgery)
Nebulous <nebulous99 @gmail.com>
Nightcrawler <Dirtydeeds @dirtcheap.net>
Nougat Surprise <nsurprise @noway.nohow.invalid>
Orange Green <og_b1823 @netmail.zoog.com.au>
Purpleswandir <ps_1201294 @gmail.com>
RichB <rich_barnsley @nowhere.com>
scuzwalla @gmail.com
SFTV_troll <SFTV_troll @yah.right>
Sulfide Eater <zaxx1108 @example.com>
<supercalifragilisticexpialadiamaticonormalizeringelimatisticantations
@averylongandannoyingdomainname.com>
Spock <spock @starfleet.ufp>
Series Expansion <serexp1 @gmail.com>
Seamus MacRae <smacrae319 @live.ca.invalid>
Snicker-snack! <ssnack119 @g00glema1l.c0m>
Tim <tharrison77107 @h0tmail.invalid>
Thursday's Leftovers <thursday.197 @hotmail.com>
thoolen <thoolen @tholenbot.thorium>
thoolen <tholen01 @gmail.com>
thoolen <th00len @th0lenbot.thorium>
Willy Wonka <w.wonk1028_x @gmail.xyz>
I know the person responsible for the attack on AFN in 2008 as "Seamus McRae"
- campaigned since under many many names - is Paul G Derbysh!re of
Pembroke, Ontario [CA].
The same person posting as "Paul Derbysh!re" <pgderb @gmail.com>.
I know to the extent it is no trouble to obtain ALL his personal data, such
is the way of things in the modern "Americas" under "Freedom".
Made easier by the fact Derbysh!re is permanently unemployable at just
35 years of age. However such personal data is none of my business, nor
that of any public media community.
All that is relevant is to address how I know, the proof I have known
for quite some time past now. Easy enough done (by anyone) I simply
followed the clues published by others in the years before and
supplemented that with a little "social engineering".
Derbysh!re, despite the rants he builds sprouting an education, is not
that "bright", and likely qualifies under Formosa's Law, so the task
was not that onerous. http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/F/Formosas-Law.html
Following a tip posted to AFN by a departing member of <c.l.j.p>
led to.
##From: Twisted <twisted0n3 @gmail.com>
##Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer
##Subject: Re: Java editor
##Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 01:11:16 -0000
##Message-ID: <1182301876.070277.260880@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>
##NNTP-Posting-Host: 76.64.152.184
Which (in time) led to Derbysh!re and myself exchanging eMail.
##+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
##
##Email from Paul Derbysh!re - twisted0n3 @gmail.com
##
##Re: *Question from Another User*
##From Paul Derbysh!re Fri Jul 17 19:37:01 2009
##Authentication-Results: xxxxxx from=gmail.com; domainkeys=pass (ok);
## from=gmail.com; dkim=pass (ok)
##Return-Path: <twisted0n3 @gmail.com>
##Received:from ?192.168.1.100? (bas1-ottawa10-1279301645.dsl.bell.ca [76.64.152.13])
by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 28sm3955169eye.6.2009.07.17.12.37.05
(version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 17 Jul 2009 12:37:06 -0700 (PDT)
##Message-ID: <4A60D2DD.10107 @gmail.com>
##Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:37:01 -0400
##From: This sender is DomainKeys verified Paul Derbysh!re <twisted0n3 @gmail.com>
##Reply-To: twisted0n3 @gmail.com
##User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605)
##To: <shxxxlxxxxx@ymail.com>
##Subject: Re: *Question from Another User*
##
##Shxxx Luxxxxx wrote:
##(crazy talk, and admits to emailing me under false pretenses)
##>Think long and carefully before you write your next mail. Patient and
##>tolerant I am, a fool or one who suffers fools.. I am not.
##>You are very lucky it is I who tracked you,
##>others may not be so generous. If I can find you so easily so can others.
##This looks like a threat.
##I think we're done here. What's the term usenetters use? Ah, yes.
##*Plonk*.
Derbysh!re's current eMail contact is <twisted0n3 @gmail.com>, thoroughly
tested and proven, Derbysh!re is receiving and reading mail at that address.
I am very sure both Wolfgang and Paolo Amorosso (of AIOE.org) also have the
address on their desks carrying comment on my posts to AFN and ANH.
There can be absolutely no doubt the account holder who first posted as
"Seamus McRae" in MID: <gug8i2$nis$1@news.motzarella.org>is known to Wolfgang
today as the same account holder using ES (as a port) in posts to AFN.
Derbysh!re has been with Sympatico-Bell.ca for some years, certainly longer
than the period 2008-11, which contains all of the deliberate abuse of
AFN generosity. Wolfgang could argue - in making excuse as he does in his
statement quoted - that he does not know "the person" behind that account.
The person who responded to my request, the person who had no less than 6(six)
exchanges in the developed eMail 'conversation', is the owner of the profile
in the link below. MO.org forwarded my request to that member and that
member responded.
http://mushroomobserver.org/observer/show_user?_js=on&_new=true&id=621
Now Wolfgang does *know*, knows what I *know*.. in the full legal sense.
Next issue.
Dealing with the issue of Wolfgang's policy on 'nym-shifting' is something
I leave largely to those interested in having the policy reviewed. I have
purposely left the topic to the near end as it is what should be most relevant
in this post to most AFN users. I myself want no part of that work. I simply
make the information available as it is not detailed in ES FAQs (or TOS)
at the time of writing (none of this post is written in anything close to
"real time").
I have already told Wolfgang such a policy is an absurdity, to which his only
response was to request_I_ do the work to show why such is my thoughts.
What I did do is test the policy, and yes, it is in place and does work as
Wolfgang describes.
IF it takes any reader of this post more then ten seconds to figure out
just what someone of Paul Derbysh!re's mental state could do with a "free-kick"
in nym-shifting in threads, a few times a fortnight, ad infinitum.. then
I respectfully suggest Usenet is just beyond you!
The rule is: One single name per text discussion NG - x-Posting has the
home group first with the "reply-to" group last (in the string) making
up the Groups Line (header).
Derbysh!re discovered the nym-shift ability without knowing the ES.org
policy.. as is seen in the two posts I point to. In all cases Derbysh!re
has followed up his own posted comment from either server
(ES.org or AIOE.org). Paolo has indicated he too has no problem with posters
changing out "From";
Message-ID: <ivpl71$it2$1@speranza.aioe.org>
I am not certain Paolo fully understands operations of Usenet, let alone
a server! I address those issues in a separate posting.
The final word is directed squarely at Paul G Derbysh!re.
Kicking back at what you fail to comprehend, Paul -- and that simply because
your education standard is hampered by a lack of completion -- is no solution,
for anyone. Many people have attempted correcting stuff for you, all nowhere
near as persistent as I. That will not change, as long as you breathe you will
endure, believe that.
Your immediate problem is in understanding presentation of a "persona".
As said previously, it is one per NG... regardless of the NSP.
However, as also 'said' to you *personally* many times, your best course of
action until the day you do "get it" is to use your RL name with a munged
email address, as many many posters do do, as I have
done, in the recent past.
The example is : "Paul G Derbysh!re" <twisted0n3_@gmail.com.invalid>
Responses to your posts under that "From" -- which bring you
grief -- are actionable under new laws in your Country and mine.
So it is you have no need to litigate civilly, as the Law protects your
"reputation". I am very sure someone can help you with a Legal Aid
request for service under Canadian "abuse of a carriage service" regulations
so as to charge criminally whom-so-ever you find umbrage with.
Anything else in even remote association with your past behaviour in
forgeries, nym-shifting, sp0rging, is all "fair game" for _anyone_ to come
down on you, heavily.. and there is not a damn thing you can do about *that*.
I have eMailed Nathan Wilson, making him aware of your preferred
"modus operandi" in forums, pointing him to some fine examples of
your use of multiple names in the <mushroomobserver.org> forum.
A copy of this post is included in that eMail.
Finally, you have never grasped the concept of Usenet hierarchies and thus
built yourself a whole unique "mantrap". <alt.*> is reserved for "anarchy",
anything goes, on the face of it. Not so in the rec,comp,sci and free
hierarchies you choose to play the *same* way in as you
do the <alt.*>.
Time will sort you out on that Usenet reality, Paul.. I trust you have the
stamina to withstand the lessons.
Do carry on, Paul.. I fully understand you will not grasp any of this post
as "news".
The bit all look at first... the End.
More than 7(seven) years I have been subscribed to AFN, seen Good Guys
come and go, outnumbered ten to one by the quantity of Bad Guys done
in, persuaded to "move on, Sunshine". That's all it takes, a few positively
motivated persons holding to the ideology Usenet is for everyone, Free..
. as in Freedom. Not to be surrendered to the very few individuals who
believe it is their Right to impinge on others Rights, Rights understood and
upheld _by the majority_.
I had 'volunteered (years back) to support those who do endeavor to
provide free Free Usenet access, support those who offered subscription based
Free Usenet access, nothing more than cooperation expected in return for what
has been many thousands of hours of work. I note
most of those I joined with are either deceased, severely disabled, or plain
ole' MIA.. now it is my Time.
Yet in true Usenet tradition I do not go quietly, nor without purpose.
Other social mediums are not for me, Usenet is all there is buuuut I can no
longer contribute at a pace required to deliver the likes of Paul Derbysh!re
on a plate. Thus it is I jump to the Dark Side,
to work at my leisure, leaving whomsoever is able to to deal with the twin
problems of ES.org and AIOE.org in sorting themselves out.
Always remember, none of this is about Derbysh!re.. it is about how one person
can orchestrate problems for everyone when administration of NNTP servers
is not a priority of the owner/operator.
Google Groups, Teranews, Shared-Secrets, BubbaNews, Octanews, and today,
AIOE.org... are *all* examples of poor adminstration, bringing them to
"rogue server" status.
Folks can use that, and will.
My first post as "murphy".
MID: <h2bjon$vtc$1@news.eternal-september.org>
You just read my last.
I have emailed Wolfgang requesting my ES accounts be cancelled.
Regardless I will make sure they are cancelled.
Wolfgang has my uninhibited permission to publish whatever content
of eMails he wishes to rely on.
I have shut-down the Keith Renske Yahoo.com box making it a SpamHole.
The phlatarse @fm box will always reject Spam (ask ReLF, it was I who
handed he that tip when he first rocked into AFN - big mistake I made)
but Fastmail.FM boxes shut down on auto-block after 40 days of inactivity anyways.
For those who think they see me in future times I can only wish you severe
Tinnitus in your dreams. For those who know me well (eMail, whatever) and
see me, know I will be smiling also. It is to you I say "adieu mein
frenz and adios .. grazie' [hugs] for all the Good Times! May you and
yours always bear well with all Life brings you".
/0ut
"murphy"+"news in service"+"Flash®"+Vinny Lingiari's Cousin +"wu®m"
2003 - 2011 [all formerly - phlatArse (pA)]
--
.*.
-() < Q. What is it that holds the
`*' Derbysh!re world together.
A. The brewing pot of 'shroom tea.
____________________________________________________________________
For those newbies who do find all of this (below) as TMI [too much information],
choosing to "skip it", I offer this piece of advice.
Skip it if you must but at least take the time to read the page at the link below.
Therein is an understanding of what to avoid in becoming one, ever.
Anything else and someday someone just like myself (when I was
keen and motivated) will pop your cork, turning you over... forever.
AUK [alt.usenet.kooks] is littered with the walking talking 'bodies' of persons who
failed to listen to basic concepts when first addressing Usenet.
Usenet is **not** a Fool's Paradise, more of a Purgatory.
Take the lesson, play "nice".
The people who will crow the loudest at my passing are those whom I
(myself) have impacted on in their Life, true headcases, swinging from
my belt.
These are the losers who could not control their software, and thus
could not control their Read, leaving their grey cells (quanity unknown)
reverbrating with a pressure to post. That was their mistake.. resist
making it yours.
Newbies read:
http://www.searchlores.org/way_kook.htm
____________________________________________________________________
Reference material:
________________
Asking Guggle "Whois Twisted @ gmail?" returns:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/twistingDerbysh!reStupid
http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=3f8LMxQAAABzMoDGNQrZUnNS0epIshar
OPANdqfI6prRsqjc7uCt1A
Some others who have found Derbysh!re in the past:
http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3CueadnREbevWvsuHfRVn-gg%
40adelphia.com%3E
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.music.progressive/browse_thread/thread
/d00d41200ed876c8/1d1851b81dcbc945?q=Derbysh!re+Single+Ottawa
http://groups.google.com/group/carleton.chat.suggestions/browse_thread/thread
/5f11363d59e5786b/d13334abf1bfcc79?q=Derbysh!re+%22Carleton+University%22
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.kia-mennie/msg/c9946955fb73b48c?dmode=source
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.java.programmer/browse_thread/thread
/0f45a32df19eca5b/5ab94b2f737d0f5c?show_docid=5ab94b2f737d0f5c
http://web.archive.org/web/20090617092700/http://kookpedia.net/index.php/Main_Page
Derbysh!re's claim to be a Veteran of military action in another Country:
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Path: [*]news.eternal-september.org!not-for-mail
> From: Seamus MacRae <smacrae...@live.ca.invalid>
> Newsgroups: alt.free.newsservers
> Subject: Re: ?Flat Ass, send Seamus MacRae his Bic lighter ( Zippos
> suck ). Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2009 18:41:05 -0400
> Message-ID: <h049q4$8s...@news.eternal-september.org>
> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302)
> Nope, hallucinogenic drugs just aren't my thing. I skipped all that
> nonsense during the sixties -- too young for it anyway, and,
> fortunately, too young to be sent to 'Nam.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Path: [*]motzarella.org!news.motzarella.org!not-for-mail
> From: Seamus MacRae <smacrae...@live.ca.invalid>
> Newsgroups: alt.free.newsservers,news.software.readers
> Subject: Re: Ray Banana, Why do you provide such an excellent service
> to Usenet? Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 17:10:14 -0400
> Message-ID: <h16dbl$fn...@news.eternal-september.org>
> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302)
> The name is Seamus, and I, unlike you, am in fact a decorated veteran.
> I was in 'nam.
________________________________________
Classic Catches [on] Paul "Harold Yarmouth" Derbysh!re
________________________________________
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.java.programmer/browse_thread/thread
/65299a1a8856b074/74a9fdde57260e45?q=%22Series+Expansion%22+author:tar%40sevak.isi.edu
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.lisp/browse_thread/thread/a072dd5f94333398
/7b8b6c6880b538d7?q=%22Series+Expansion%22+author:tar%40sevak.isi.edu
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.lisp/browse_thread/thread/a1850eed28d98d7a
/9e23fedfc2e57910?q=%22Series+Expansion%22+author:tar%40sevak.isi.edu
##From: Tim X <t...@nospam.dev.null>
##Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp,comp.lang.java.programmer
##Message-ID: <87iqjoguri.fsf@lion.rapttech.com.au>
##NNTP-Posting-Host: 748cdfdb.news.astraweb.com
##
##Series Expansion <sere.. .@gm....com> writes:
##
##> On May 25, 4:22Â am, Tim X <t...@nospam.dev.null> wrote:
##>> OK, I see, its ok for you to personally attack me by claiming I lied
##>
##> Well, it's kind of hard not to when you say something won't be a
##> personal atatck, and then spend four very long paragraphs telling the
##> whole world how stupid you think I am.
##>
##Well, it seems you want it both ways. In your first reply, you stated
##you didn't read what followed, now your claiming it was 4 paragraphs
##of me telling the world how stupid you are. Either you read it or you
##did not.
##It would seem that your so concerned about people thinking your stupid
##that your makeing very basic errors in comprehension. I do not know you
##and don't know whether your stupid or not, but the evidence does
##indicate your overly defensive - to the point of interpreting any
##attempt to correct any misinformation you have as a personal attack.
##How would someone have to phrase a correction for you so that it is not
##seen as a personal attack or do you never get anything wrong?
##
##Tim
##
##PS. I'm now very glad I didn't also correct your misinformation
##concerning blind programmers and graphical UIs.
##
##PPS. FYI I've been a blind programmer for over 10 years and do happen to
##know a bit about it
##
##--
##tcross (at) rapttech dot com dot au
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
http://preview.tinyurl.com/Derbysh!reWINS
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.lisp/browse_thread/thread/9a7d222
b5dc91c78/b60304dc8b563960?q=author:scuzwalla%40gmail.com
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.lisp/msg/5e39ce4277e8ea55?dmode=source
From: Bent C Dalager <b...@pvv.ntnu.no>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp,comp.programming
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:27:14 +0000 (UTC)
Message-ID: <slrnh3099i.of2.bcd@decibel.pvv.ntnu.no>
NNTP-Posting-Host: decibel.pvv.ntnu.no
> Seamus MacRae wrote:
> ) Willem wrote:
> )> Seamus MacRae wrote:
> )> ) <snip>
> )> ) I. Do. Not. Make. Mistakes.
> )> ) <snip>
>
> By the way, the statement 'I do not make mistakes' is delusional
> and megalomanic. If you really believe that you should get
> professional help. If not, you've just proven yourself a liar.
[..]
At the time he went under a variety of names, of which "Twisted" was
perhaps the most apt one. He discontinued them after the thread died
down and has occasionally re-emerged in c.l.j.p with new names, only
to have his behaviour recognized, participate in a brief exchange and
then disappear again. What has made the current reincarnation
particularly long-lived, I expect, is that he is an unknown phenomenom
in c.l.l and c.p so wasn't as readily ignored.
[..]
I made a pledge at the time to the c.l.j.p regulars that I would
discontinue the exchange. For that reason I have posted this only to
c.l.l and c.p. This is somewhat rude of me as I do not read either of
those groups, but on the other hand I will not be around to respond to
Seamus' inevitable rebuttal so there's a silver lining I suppose.
Cheers,
Bent D
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
http://mushroomobserver.org/comment/show_comment/38444?q=6rh4
By: Paul Derbysh!re (Twizzler)
Summary: This thread should probably just die.
^^I don’t agree that I’ve done anything to invite reprehensible responses.
^^(And as for the “Usenet community”, I haven’t touched Usenet in years —
^^too much heat and too little light for my tastes. Someone there is
^^apparently (ab)using my name, or it’s another Paul Derbysh!re.)
Classic Derbysh!re Boast:
Message-ID: <h16d0n$fn2$1@news.eternal-september.org>
##As for "lucrative", I have managed to save up about $3 million and am
##going to retire and go on vacation soon. A nice, long vacation with no
##usenet. So if I suddenly disappear and stay gone, it's not because I've
##"seen the light" and now agree with all of this nonsense that's being
##posted. It's because I'm dancing with half-naked women in Tahiti and
##couldn't care less what some bunch of fucknozzles are spouting
##ignorantly on the Internet.
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| From | thoolen <tholen01@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-09-11 21:46 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: I just do not fskn believe...!... THE absurdity installed by "Wolfgang M. Weyand" <wolf@eternal-september.org>[Paul G Derbyshire Usenet Presence August 2011] |
| Message-ID | <7eddb274-294a-4fe5-afe5-908a806be9f4@h6g2000yqe.googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #1030 |
On 11/09/2011 11:28 PM, murphy wrote: NaN> Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.help,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.lisp NaN> 0n Mon, 1 Aug 2011 I [murphy] wrote in NaN> <j16bcp$33t$1@dont-email.me> showing electronic tracking of NaN> Paul G Derbysh!re's newest adventure into trolling AFN with: What does your unsubstantiated allegation regarding "Paul G Derbysh! re" have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy? And who is "Paul G Derbysh! re", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias. NaN> [update] What does your "update" have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy? NaN> I subsequently wrote Wolfgang (wolf @eternal-september.org) and asked this question - NaN> "How do I ask why this poster is being NaN> ignored, prompting a reply that makes sense? What does your question of Wolfgang have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy? NaN> The answer to which now leads to this post being made, despite some loose (avoiding) NaN> exchanges (eMails) being made in denying Wolfgang the out NaN> of "running from the problem". Who is "Wolfgang", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias. NaN> The answer being - NaN> NaN> "There is a server rule that automatically bans users who use more than NaN> 5 different nyms within 10 consecutive days. NaN> Sounds reasonable, doesn't it? The user in question (as neither you nor NaN> I know his real identity, the names don't matter) has so far managed to NaN> avoid hitting this limit." What does your nymshifting and careful evasion of server rules have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy? NaN> Now. there are a number of issues which could be addressed in that NaN> statement, I point to what I see as the two prime issues, for Usenet and NaN> for the perspective held by regulars who have contributed profusely to AFN in NaN> years past, and, maybe see no reason not to continue despite the Noise from NaN> vagrants/miscreants/trolls... and the clinically insane. What do your trolling and your clinical insanity have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy? Rather ironic that you'd mention trolls and the clinically insane generating noise in newsgroups, while trolling several Java and Lisp newsgroups with off-topic flamebait of a paranoid nature, murphy. NaN> The two issues being: NaN> 1. The absurdity of such a policy NaN> 2. The Truth of "neither you nor I know his real identity" What do your identity issues have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy? It would be more appropriate for you to discuss your issues with your psychiatrist, murphy. NaN> Reversing the order - for clarity - I address "know" in setting an ambience NaN> of candid veracity for this work (publication). What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy? You have *never* "set an ambience of candid veracity", murphy, given that everything you post is utter nonsense. NaN> It would be to easy for those so inclined to look at the posts of NaN> "Ray Banana" <rayban @banana.shacknet.nu> and think "Ray knows". Who is "Ray Banana", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias. NaN> Equally for those following the bouncing ball(s) I have posted around NaN> Derbysh!re's activity in AFN (with links as provenance) it would be quite NaN> reasonable for those enlightened gals 'n' guys to think Who is "Derbysh!re", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias. NaN> "murphy/phlatArse knows". What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy? More appropriate would be "murphy/phlatArse hallucinates", murphy. NaN> Not good enough people. What does your not being good enough have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy? NaN> Wolfgang is using the legalese "know" not the anecdotal "know". Anyone implementing rules fairly and impartially has to, murphy, or else they can be manipulated by malefactors into being the tools of oppression, or misled by lunatics like you into banning innocent people. NaN> Simply put, Wolfgang is saying; NaN> "put a document before me which identifies NaN> Paul G Derbysh!re as *any* of the posters you NaN> claim him to be and I _may_ look at the activity. Who is "Paul G Derbysh!re", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias. NaN> So it is *all* of the arguments offered thusfar can be seen (as an excuse NaN> to do nothing) as "armchair attorneys" and/or "Usenet vigilantes" posting NaN> _opinion_ on Derbysh!re's activity. Or perhaps this interpretation is more believable, murphy: Wolfgang quickly recognized you as a paranoid psycho, murphy, and is humoring you as much as possible and otherwise ignoring you. NaN> Despite the fact logs from <news.eternal-september.org> would easily NaN> reveal the dynamics of the DNS range Derbysh!re uses, despite the fact NaN> seven clearly identifiable disconnected posters from five Countries NaN> (Ireland, Norway, USA, Canada, Australia) have published the NaN> provenance over many years, despite the fact Derbysh!re himself has NaN> published his own "outing" NaN> in MiD:<0941e52b-d50a-4bc8- aa3f-930955de146c@d42g2000prb.googlegroups.com> Who is "Derbysh!re", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias. What do your URLs have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy? NaN> - despite *all* that - there is no way Wolfgang can *know* until he NaN> himself goes looking. Classic pontification. It's called the empirical method, murphy, and all of modern science is built on it. A scientific mind requires evidence to be convinced of something, murphy, not just some paranoid rants emailed to him or randomly crossposted to irrelevant groups on Usenet. NaN> What is the degree of difficulty? What does your question have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy? NaN> The information is "public domain", has been for some years. What does your dedicating of your paranoid rantifestos into the public domain have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy? Though one wonders who would otherwise hold the copyrights, murphy. If there are multiple voices in your head, murphy, could one of them sue another one for infringement? NaN> And not 'hidden', at all.. as the "bricks and mortar" would easily be NaN> discovered by the person holding the information of server access AND NaN> "six years as a NSP Admin" - Wolfgang's own words. Who is "Wolfgang", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias. NaN> Wolfgang himself will tell you there is nothing "illegal" (in any terms) in NaN> searching out and publishing a person's Name and eMail address - read the NaN> ES TOS for proof. So there is no legal impediment to searching. There is a moral impediment, murphy. NaN> So, what is the problem for Wolfgang in looking? Who is "Wolfgang", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias. NaN> Laziness, with a hint of a fear from repercussions, all same what Neal Hubbard NaN> [Cap'n Neal - Greg Hall (Squeaky] dished out in his tissy fits, when removed NaN> from Wolfgang's server. Who is "Wolfgang", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias. NaN> The latter is easily dealt with by an Administration, the former is incurable. Classic pontification. NaN> So it is I say I find it not acceptable (to me, personally) for NSP NaN> Administrators to expect, as a default situation, that the members of NGs NaN> have the responsibility of searching out and proving "know", NaN> when it is the NSP who has the only legally accessible database which holds the NaN> proof a vagrant/miscreant/troll is indeed ^whom^ the complainant points to. If you don't find the policies of your news server acceptable to you, personally, murphy, then switch to another one. The server has the right to be run in a manner that you, personally, disagree with, murphy. If that includes a policy, written or unwritten, against invading the privacy of one of its users upon the pseudonymous request of another based on unsubstantiated allegations, then so much the better, murphy. NaN> Worse, refusing to act until "know" is proved is just not good enough. It's good enough for the criminal justice system, murphy. In fact, the presumption of innocence is a cornerstone of all civilized justice systems. Acting before "know" is proved results in tragedies, murphy -- torches-and-pitchforks vigilantes destroying property and lives, innocents being lynched at the hands of mobs, and so forth. If you so strongly believe in the supremacy of an authoritarian rule over the individual's freedoms and, in particular, over the presumption of an individual's innocence, murphy, then perhaps you should move to China, or North Korea, or Iran, or Cuba, murphy. NaN> The activity _should be_ ample evidence to prompt the Administrator to NaN> contact the subscriber and warn the person. What does your vague allegation of unspecified nefarious "activity" on an unspecified "subscriber"'s part have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy? NaN> Wolfgang refuses to do this simple step which would have an immediate effect. Because doing so would turn him into a pawn of people like you, who would unjustly gain the ability to cause anyone to be arbitrarily served with a threat notice, murphy. NaN> His reasoning, so he says, is that such a slap would create a "Hannibal Lector" NaN> type Derbysh!re. Wolfgang is way too late in using that excuse, Derbysh!re is NaN> certifiable, has been for years - as the public record well displays 8-/ Who is "Derbysh!re", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias. NaN> Wolfgang used similar excuse to deny warning "Git_RDunn <Git_RDunn@kh.kh>" NaN> back in 2008 for his "Jihad" on <alt.binaries.news-server- comparison>, saying in: NaN> Message- ID:<58857.193.243.189.117.1221123438.squirrel@banana.shacknet.nu> Who is "Git_RDunn", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias. NaN> "I do not think people like GitRDunn (or Greg Hall/Wesley NaN> Mouch/Gloria) are susceptible to hints, advice or warnings. NaN> They do, however, understand a "502 Permission denied". I have NaN> just noticed that GitRDunn's postings are in violation of NaN> Motzarella's TOS, as the domain hk.hk does not exist." NaN> 11 Sep 2008 What does that have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy? NaN> "Git_RDunn" continued on in his campaign to undo what was then an attempt NaN> to revive <abnsc>, He didn't see out 2009, spending his last days frothing NaN> and ranting at posters.. dying in the traces, so to NaN> speak. Who is "Git_RDunn", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias. NaN> Today <abnsc> is dead for the purpose it was created, all over NaN> Usenet advice on "which NSP do I buy" NaN> is delivered "engroupe". It is very rare to see an enquiry in <abnsc>. What does that have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy? NaN> "Git_RDunn" took the task his buddies set, some four years previous, to his grave. NaN> Derbysh!re is ~35, of sustainable physical fitness, fully supported by the NaN> State in his 20/7 thrashing of keyboards. Who is "Derbysh!re", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias. NaN> One can only wonder just what will be the final impact on the Sci- Fi, NaN> TV fan, Java and gamers NGs he plagues, daily, before the "white- coats" NaN> decide to completely restrain his person to a padded cell. What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with Lisp, murphy? All of the newsgroups you've indicated appear to be thriving, murphy, with either high signal traffic or very low noise, murphy. The ones with the highest noise levels are the TV newsgroups, murphy, and the noise in them is predominantly coming from right-wing political trolls, murphy. In the Java and gaming newsgroups, the most recent significant source of noise has been you, murphy. NaN> I supply the list of names used by Derbysh!re in AFN since 2008. Who is "Derbysh!re", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias. NaN> Others in groups away from AFN should recognise many of them as NaN> being "kill-filed". Classic erroneous presupposition. NaN> The list is not a complete list as I limited the search to two parameters: NaN> a.) those electronically linked by Host - from the same node on that day NaN> b.) those still available on servers today and thus easily verifiable Classic erroneous presupposition. NaN> All of course are searchable through Google Advanced Search - What does your URL have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy? NaN> . an onerous task (for some) the records none-the-less stand, irrefutable. NaN> As there is no point to checking which are "live" I have disabled the NaN> addresses, saving networks the load of pinging through Spammers. Classic erroneous presupposition. NaN> Canuck <canuck107 @canada.xyz> NaN> Cthun <cthun_117 @qmail.net.au> NaN> Chad Carmichael <c_carm10782.x @y.z> NaN> dark-zark-fark <dzf190485 @rutgers.edu> NaN> Deep Green <d_green11908 @gmail.com> (forgery) NaN> Deeyana <d.awlberg @hotmail.invalid> NaN> De Lurker <delancey_s113 @harvard.nospam.invalid> NaN> Derek Yancey <dy190295683 @nospam.invalid> NaN> Extravagan <extravagan @frogsoup.xelon.com> NaN> Ferdinand the -14th <foo @bar.invalid> NaN> Fuschia, President-Elect of the Bright Purplish-Green Council <fp- eotbp-gc @ibm.com> NaN> George Arctos <g.arctos11 @hormair.cor> NaN> Greg Kelly <gkelly101_4 @gmai1.c0m> NaN> Greg Sandoval <g_sandoval @gcsma.edu.br> NaN> Gheerax IV <gheerax.4 @gmail.invalid> NaN> Handkea fumosa <hfumosa @gmail.com> NaN> Hieronymus S. Freely <hsfreely @xavier.uwsc.edu> NaN> Hydrocon <hcon77107 @geemail.corn> NaN> Henry Harrison <hharr.1082 @quux.bar.foo> NaN> Henderson <h1 @g1.f1> NaN> Heike Svensson <hsvensson.1093x1_q @hotmail.nospam.com.please> NaN> Harry Greer <h_greer_1099348 @gmail.xxx> NaN> Janie Zanie <jjezebel916 @gmai1.invalid> NaN> Jerry Gerrone <scuzwalla @gmail.com> NaN> John Kirkpatrick XVII <jkxvii @ask.me> NaN> Katie Gerrolds <k.gerrolds @nbfinlan.net> NaN> Kevin Hadron <kh_mu_meson @q.us> NaN> kensi <kensi_kensington @zoonoses.de> NaN> KitKat <kitkat_11697 @gmail.example.com> NaN> Meerkats <mk_ultra.19018 @gmail.com> (forgery) NaN> Mister Scott <m_scott.19477b @noggles.corn> NaN> Mrs. Danforth <danforth_a @hotmail.coo> NaN> Mike Faramis <m_faramis808 @qmail.nospam.net> NaN> Mamac <mmc.19384_b @gmai1.com> NaN> Nancy 3 <n3 @gmai1.c0m> NaN> Nancy 4 <n4 @gmai1.c0m> (forgery) NaN> Nebulous <nebulous99 @gmail.com> NaN> Nightcrawler <Dirtydeeds @dirtcheap.net> NaN> Nougat Surprise <nsurprise @noway.nohow.invalid> NaN> Orange Green <og_b1823 @netmail.zoog.com.au> NaN> Purpleswandir <ps_1201294 @gmail.com> NaN> RichB <rich_barnsley @nowhere.com> NaN> scuzwalla @gmail.com NaN> SFTV_troll <SFTV_troll @yah.right> NaN> Sulfide Eater <zaxx1108 @example.com> NaN> <supercalifragilisticexpialadiamaticonormalizeringelimatisticantations NaN> @averylongandannoyingdomainname.com> NaN> Spock <spock @starfleet.ufp> NaN> Series Expansion <serexp1 @gmail.com> NaN> Seamus MacRae <smacrae319 @live.ca.invalid> NaN> Snicker-snack! <ssnack119 @g00glema1l.c0m> NaN> Tim <tharrison77107 @h0tmail.invalid> NaN> Thursday's Leftovers <thursday.197 @hotmail.com> NaN> thoolen <thoolen @tholenbot.thorium> NaN> thoolen <tholen01 @gmail.com> NaN> thoolen <th00len @th0lenbot.thorium> NaN> Willy Wonka <w.wonk1028_x @gmail.xyz> What does your paranoia have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy? NaN> I know the person responsible for the attack on AFN in 2008 as "Seamus McRae" NaN> - campaigned since under many many names - is Paul G Derbysh! re of NaN> Pembroke, Ontario [CA]. What does your unsubstantiated claim have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy? NaN> The same person posting as "Paul Derbysh!re" <pgderb @gmail.com>. What does your unsubstantiated claim have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy? NaN> I know to the extent it is no trouble to obtain ALL his personal data, such NaN> is the way of things in the modern "Americas" under "Freedom". NaN> Made easier by the fact Derbysh!re is permanently unemployable at just NaN> 35 years of age. However such personal data is none of my business, nor NaN> that of any public media community. Ironically, that hasn't stopped you spreading these dubious and unsubstantiated allegations about Derbysh!re to random and irrelevant newsgroups, murphy. NaN> All that is relevant is to address how I know, the proof I have known NaN> for quite some time past now. What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy? NaN> Easy enough done (by anyone) I simply followed the clues published by NaN> others in the years before and supplemented that with a little "social NaN> engineering". What do your dishonesty and paranoia have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy? NaN> Derbysh!re, despite the rants he builds sprouting an education, is not NaN> that "bright", and likely qualifies under Formosa's Law, so the task NaN> was not that onerous. Who is "Derbysh!re", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias. What does your URL have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy? NaN> Following a tip posted to AFN by a departing member of <c.l.j.p> NaN> led to. Classic ungrammatical sentence. There's a missing noun phrase between the preposition and the ending period, murphy. NaN> ##From: Twisted <twisted0n3 @gmail.com> NaN> ##Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer NaN> ##Subject: Re: Java editor NaN> ##Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 01:11:16 -0000 NaN> ##Message- ID:<1182301876.070277.260880@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> NaN> ##NNTP-Posting-Host: 76.64.152.184 What does any of that have to do with Lisp, murphy? NaN> Which (in time) led to Derbysh!re and myself exchanging eMail. Who is "Derbysh!re", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias. NaN> ##+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ NaN> ## NaN> ##Email from Paul Derbysh!re - twisted0n3 @gmail.com NaN> ## NaN> ##Re: *Question from Another User* NaN> ##From Paul Derbysh!re Fri Jul 17 19:37:01 2009 NaN> ##Authentication-Results: xxxxxx from=gmail.com; domainkeys=pass (ok); NaN> ## from=gmail.com; dkim=pass (ok) NaN> ##Return-Path:<twisted0n3 @gmail.com> NaN> ##Received:from ?192.168.1.100? (bas1- ottawa10-1279301645.dsl.bell.ca [76.64.152.13]) NaN> by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 28sm3955169eye. 6.2009.07.17.12.37.05 NaN> (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 17 Jul 2009 12:37:06 -0700 (PDT) NaN> ##Message-ID:<4A60D2DD.10107 @gmail.com> NaN> ##Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:37:01 -0400 NaN> ##From: This sender is DomainKeys verified Paul Derbysh! re<twisted0n3 @gmail.com> NaN> ##Reply-To: twisted0n3 @gmail.com NaN> ##User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) NaN> ##To:<shxxxlxxxxx@ymail.com> NaN> ##Subject: Re: *Question from Another User* NaN> ## NaN> ##Shxxx Luxxxxx wrote: NaN> ##(crazy talk, and admits to emailing me under false pretenses) NaN> ##>Think long and carefully before you write your next mail. Patient and NaN> ##>tolerant I am, a fool or one who suffers fools.. I am not. NaN> ##>You are very lucky it is I who tracked you, NaN> ##>others may not be so generous. If I can find you so easily so can others. NaN> ##This looks like a threat. NaN> ##I think we're done here. What's the term usenetters use? Ah, yes. NaN> ##*Plonk*. What does your republication, doubtless without permission and therefore in violation of privacy, of someone's email have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy? NaN> Derbysh!re's current eMail contact is <twisted0n3 @gmail.com>, thoroughly NaN> tested and proven, Derbysh!re is receiving and reading mail at that address. Who is "Derbysh!re", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias. NaN> I am very sure both Wolfgang and Paolo Amorosso (of AIOE.org) also have the NaN> address on their desks carrying comment on my posts to AFN and ANH. Who are "Wolfgang" and "Paolo Amorosso", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using either alias. NaN> There can be absolutely no doubt the account holder who first posted as NaN> "Seamus McRae" in MID:<gug8i2$nis$1@news.motzarella.org> is known to Wolfgang NaN> today as the same account holder using ES (as a port) in posts to AFN. Who is "Seamus McRae", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias. NaN> Derbysh!re has been with Sympatico-Bell.ca for some years, Who is "Derbysh!re", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias. NaN> certainly longer than the period 2008-11, which contains all of the NaN> deliberate abuse of AFN generosity. What does your deliberate abuse of AFN have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy? NaN> Wolfgang could argue - in making excuse as he does in his NaN> statement quoted - that he does not know "the person" behind that account. Who is "Wolfgang", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias. NaN> The person who responded to my request, the person who had no less than 6(six) NaN> exchanges in the developed eMail 'conversation', is the owner of the profile NaN> in the link below. What does your claim have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy? NaN> MO.org forwarded my request to that member and that member responded. What does your URL have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy? NaN> Now Wolfgang does *know*, knows what I *know*.. in the full legal sense. Who is "Wolfgang", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias. NaN> Next issue. Classic ambiguity. NaN> Dealing with the issue of Wolfgang's policy on 'nym-shifting' is something NaN> I leave largely to those interested in having the policy reviewed. What does your nym-shifting have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy? NaN> I have purposely left the topic to the near end as it is what should be NaN> most relevant in this post to most AFN users. Alas, nothing in your post is relevant to comp.lang.* users, murphy, yet you sent your post to those newsgroups instead of AFN anyway. NaN> I myself want no part of that work. I simply make the information NaN> available as it is not detailed in ES FAQs (or TOS) at the time of writing NaN> (none of this post is written in anything close to "real time"). What does that have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy? NaN> I have already told Wolfgang such a policy is an absurdity, to which his only NaN> response was to request_I_ do the work to show why such is my thoughts. Who is "Wolfgang", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias. NaN> What I did do is test the policy, and yes, it is in place and does work as NaN> Wolfgang describes. Who is "Wolfgang", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias. NaN> IF it takes any reader of this post more then ten seconds to figure out NaN> just what someone of Paul Derbysh!re's mental state could do with a "free-kick" NaN> in nym-shifting in threads, a few times a fortnight, ad infinitum.. then NaN> I respectfully suggest Usenet is just beyond you! Who is "Paul Derbysh!re", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias. NaN> The rule is: One single name per text discussion NG - x-Posting has the NaN> home group first with the "reply-to" group last (in the string) making NaN> up the Groups Line (header). What does your rule have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy? NaN> Derbysh!re discovered the nym-shift ability without knowing the ES.org NaN> policy.. as is seen in the two posts I point to. In all cases Derbysh!re NaN> has followed up his own posted comment from either server NaN> (ES.org or AIOE.org). Who is "Derbysh!re", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias. NaN> Paolo has indicated he too has no problem with posters changing out "From"; NaN> Message-ID: <ivpl71$it2$1@speranza.aioe.org> Who is "Paolo", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias. And the message you indicated is from "Aioe" and makes no mention of any "Paolo", murphy. Still suffering from hallucinations, murphy? NaN> I am not certain Paolo fully understands operations of Usenet, let alone NaN> a server! I address those issues in a separate posting. Who is "Paolo", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias. NaN> The final word is directed squarely at Paul G Derbysh!re. Who is "Paul G Derbysh!re", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias. NaN> Kicking back at what you fail to comprehend, Paul -- and that simply because NaN> your education standard is hampered by a lack of completion -- is no solution, NaN> for anyone. Who is "Paul", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias. And what does your unsubstantiated allegation that "Paul" is a drop-out have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy? NaN> Many people have attempted correcting stuff for you, all nowhere near as NaN> persistent as I. What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy? Neither you nor anybody else has been correcting stuff for a nonexistent person, murphy, for obvious reasons. The only thing you have been persistent at is stalking a figment of your own imagination, murphy, and posting paranoid, off- topic screeds all over usenet in the process. NaN> That will not change, as long as you breathe you will endure, believe that. What does your threat towards "Paul" have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy? If he actually existed, your threat would be grounds for his being able to obtain a TRO against you, murphy, enjoining you from any further contact with him. Be thankful that he's just a creature of your own mind, murphy. NaN> Your immediate problem is in understanding presentation of a "persona". What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy? For "Paul" to have such a problem he'd first have to exist as more than just a paranoid delusion of yours, murphy. NaN> As said previously, it is one per NG... regardless of the NSP. What does your claim have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy? And why do you think you can bind anyone else to a rule you make up on the spot, murphy? You aren't King of Usenet, murphy. Nevermind that your intended target doesn't even exist, murphy. You can't even get that right, murphy. NaN> However, as also 'said' to you *personally* many times, your best course of NaN> action until the day you do "get it" is to use your RL name with a munged NaN> email address, as many many posters do do, as I have NaN> done, in the recent past. What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy? Half the people you've been harassing do appear to be using their real names with munged email addresses, murphy, yet your claim above implies that none of them are. NaN> The example is : "Paul G Derbysh!re" <twisted0n3_@gmail.com.invalid> Why should a large assortment of posters be forced to use that same From line, murphy, just on your say-so? That would result in massive confusion and inability of other people to tell them apart, murphy. And who declared you the final arbiter of who gets subjected to this rule and who doesn't? Are we really to expect that you can just name someone, by making a post like this one with a list of random names, and everyone you name is then forced to assume that particular identity, murphy? What does your lunatic demand of all of Usenet have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy? NaN> Responses to your posts under that "From" -- which bring you NaN> grief -- are actionable under new laws in your Country and mine. What does your claim have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy? NaN> So it is you have no need to litigate civilly, as the Law protects your NaN> "reputation". Classic ambiguity. NaN> I am very sure someone can help you with a Legal Aid request for NaN> service under Canadian "abuse of a carriage service" regulations NaN> so as to charge criminally whom-so-ever you find umbrage with. What does your criminal conduct have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy? NaN> Anything else in even remote association with your past behaviour in NaN> forgeries, nym-shifting, sp0rging, is all "fair game" for _anyone_ to come NaN> down on you, heavily.. and there is not a damn thing you can do about *that*. What do your vague threat and your unsubstantiated allegations towards a figment of your own imagination have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy? NaN> I have eMailed Nathan Wilson, making him aware of your preferred NaN> "modus operandi" in forums, pointing him to some fine examples of NaN> your use of multiple names in the <mushroomobserver.org> forum. What does your unsubstantiated allegation have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy? NaN> A copy of this post is included in that eMail. What does your bothering of random people with unsolicited, long emailed paranoid screeds have to do with Java or Lisp, spammer? NaN> Finally, you have never grasped the concept of Usenet hierarchies and thus NaN> built yourself a whole unique "mantrap". What does your unsubstantiated allegation have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy? NaN> <alt.*> is reserved for "anarchy", anything goes, on the face of it. Classic pontification. NaN> Not so in the rec,comp,sci and free hierarchies you choose to play the NaN> *same* way in as you do the<alt.*>. How ironic, coming as it does from someone who keeps posting off-topic paranoid screeds to rec.* and comp.*. NaN> Time will sort you out on that Usenet reality, Paul.. I trust you have the NaN> stamina to withstand the lessons. Who is "Paul", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias. NaN> Do carry on, Paul.. I fully understand you will not grasp any of this post NaN> as "news". Who is "Paul", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias. NaN> The bit all look at first... the End. What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy? NaN> More than 7(seven) years I have been subscribed to AFN, seen Good Guys NaN> come and go, outnumbered ten to one by the quantity of Bad Guys done NaN> in, persuaded to "move on, Sunshine". That's all it takes, a few positively NaN> motivated persons holding to the ideology Usenet is for everyone, Free.. NaN> . as in Freedom. How ironic, coming as it does from someone intent on bullying numerous other people into adopting ludicrous restrictions on their From headers (restrictions that would even make it impossible for anyone else to easily tell them apart from one another!). NaN> Not to be surrendered to the very few individuals who NaN> believe it is their Right to impinge on others Rights, Rights understood and NaN> upheld _by the majority_. How ironic. NaN> I had 'volunteered (years back) to support those who do endeavor to NaN> provide free Free Usenet access, support those who offered subscription based NaN> Free Usenet access, nothing more than cooperation expected in return for what NaN> has been many thousands of hours of work. What does your "volunteering" to pollute usenet with vulgarity, paranoid screeds, and other low-value "content", usually crossposted where it's off-topic, have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy? Surely you don't think that your wasting "thousands of hours" on generating your noise and pestering various news server admins with large volumes of frivolous complaints actually *entitles* you to anything other than possibly a knuckle sandwich, murphy? NaN> I note most of those I joined with are either deceased, severely disabled, NaN> or plain ole' MIA.. now it is my Time. Famous Last Words. NaN> Yet in true Usenet tradition I do not go quietly, nor without purpose. What does your noisemaking have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy? NaN> Other social mediums are not for me, Usenet is all there is buuuut I can no NaN> longer contribute at a pace required to deliver the likes of Paul Derbysh!re NaN> on a plate. Who is "Paul Derbysh!re", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias. NaN> Thus it is I jump to the Dark Side, to work at my leisure, What does your vague threat have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy? Be aware that while the law will generally turn a blind eye to one more lunatic posting off-topic paranoid screeds on Usenet, murphy, it will come down on you hard if you start dabbling in hacking or similar crimes. NaN> leaving whomsoever is able to to deal with the twin> problems of ES.org NaN> and AIOE.org in sorting themselves out. What does your classic erroneous presupposition that either of those need "sorting out" have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy? NaN> Always remember, none of this is about Derbysh!re.. Who is "Derbysh!re", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias. And what does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy? It's quite clear that your post is indeed about "Derbysh!re", and indeed that that person, if he even exists, has become the singular object of a truly scary level of obsessive fixation on your part in recent months, murphy. NaN> it is about how one person can orchestrate problems for everyone NaN> when administration of NNTP servers is not a priority of the NaN> owner/operator. How ironic. NaN> Google Groups, Teranews, Shared-Secrets, BubbaNews, Octanews, NaN> and today, AIOE.org... are *all* examples of poor adminstration, NaN> bringing them to "rogue server" status. What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy? NaN> Folks can use that, and will. What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy? NaN> My first post as "murphy". What does your nym-shifting have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy? NaN> MID: <h2bjon$vtc$1@news.eternal-september.org> NaN> You just read my last. Famous Last Words. I wonder what nym you'll be posting as tomorrow, murphy? NaN> I have emailed Wolfgang requesting my ES accounts be cancelled. No doubt you'll also be creating new ones, murphy. NaN> Regardless I will make sure they are cancelled. Famous Last Words. NaN> Wolfgang has my uninhibited permission to publish whatever content NaN> of eMails he wishes to rely on. Who is "Wolfgang", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias. NaN> I have shut-down the Keith Renske Yahoo.com box making it a SpamHole. Who is "Keith Renske", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias. NaN> The phlatarse @fm box will always reject Spam (ask ReLF, it was I who NaN> handed he that tip when he first rocked into AFN - big mistake I made) NaN> but Fastmail.FM boxes shut down on auto-block after 40 days of NaN> inactivity anyways. What does that have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy? NaN> For those who think they see me in future times I can only wish you severe NaN> Tinnitus in your dreams. How ironic, when you yourself think you see "Derbysh!re" in every newbie, under every rock, and lurking near every shadow, murphy. NaN> For those who know me well (eMail, whatever) and NaN> see me, know I will be smiling also. It is to you I say "adieu mein NaN> frenz and adios .. grazie' [hugs] for all the Good Times! May you and NaN> yours always bear well with all Life brings you". Classic insincerity. NaN> /0ut Famous Last Word. NaN> "murphy"+"news in service"+"Flash®"+Vinny Lingiari's Cousin +"wu®m" NaN> 2003 - 2011 [all formerly - phlatArse (pA)] Famous Last Words.
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| From | Deeyana <d.awlberg@hotmail.invalid> |
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| Date | 2011-09-12 05:54 +0000 |
| Subject | Ten years ago today, bin Laden destroyed America. All mourn. (was Re: [update]) |
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On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 03:28:58 +0000, murphy wrote: > http://www.searchlores.org/way_kook.htm THE WAY OF THE K00K * Never learn from your mistakes. How many times have you been told you're wrong, paranoid, off-topic, ranting, or so forth, murphy? How many times have you showed any sign of learning better? * Always practice your mistakes; you may get them right. How many times have you continued after being corrected, murphy? * Always pick on those smarter and tougher than you. Well, below you're admitting that you're beaten by this "Derbysh!re" person, so I guess you did that too, murphy. * Always believe that only you know the TRVTH. You've been trumpeting constantly about how you're the one with the "know", and everyone else is a fool for not listening. * Never allow logic or reason get in the way of a good k00k. And you, murphy, never have, have you? * When being overwhelmed by logic and reason: k00ksuit! This one you've avoided, murphy, so far as I am aware. * If you are going to be wrong, do it at the top of your lungs. But you never disappoint on that score, murphy. Huge, rambling, massively- crossposted rants chock full of spelling, grammatical, and factual errors and random use of caps must surely count as doing it at the top of your lungs. * When caught in a lie: LIE! And of course you, murphy, have been a pathological liar, if not simply delusional. * When in doubt: Order the Crab Won Ton I don't get it. * Plagiarism is your friend. Use it. Not aware of you doing that one either, murphy. * Whenever contradicted; morph, start calling people names, and make false accusations. You must be the all time world champion at this, though, murphy. What names have you called people? "Junior", "fuckhaid", "k00k", and so forth...and you signed off with a list of some of your past nyms (uff has more): > "murphy"+"news in service"+"Flash®"+Vinny Lingiari's Cousin +"wu®m" > 2003 - 2011 [all formerly - phlatArse (pA)] And as for false accusations, this single post of yours to comp.* groups is a sterling example of the genre. * Post numerous blank posts, or posts containing only a message id. Unfortunately, your k00kery never tended towards that; you prefer ridiculously long posts full of barely-coherent paranoia instead. * Post numerous copy&paste web articles from crackerpot websites. How many times have you included copy&paste emails and usenet posts that, at least allegedly, you received or saw posted somewhere and that, at least allegedly, "prove" one of your paranoid accusations? Not to mention links of various sorts that you also claim do so. * Never forget to call k00kologists "k00ks." And indeed you never did, murphy. In particular several people who have exposed, or just plain criticized, you have been called that by you. * If there are several, call them "sockpuppets" too World champion again, murphy; you've taken pretty much *everyone on Usenet* that has *ever* disagreed with you and called them all sockpuppets. The very article you just posted claimed that no fewer than FIFTY-FIVE usenetters were sockpuppets of one another! Quite possibly a Guinness record ... k00k. * Quote notorious scientists or writers - it makes it look as if they approve the drivel you are writing! Does (mis)quoting news admins count? * Ignore all traffic signs and feel free to trespass, you don't have to obey any rules. For example, you posting this thread to comp.lang.java.programmer, comp.lang.java.help, and comp.lang.lisp when it self-evidently has nothing to do with either Java or Lisp. * Scare your enemies with lawsuits, police escorts and whines. Whines, yes. "I don't fskn believe it!" in response to a news admin refusing to kick a subscriber merely upon your say-so certainly seems to qualify. I'm unaware of lawsuit or police threats from you, though, murphy. * Always back up your empty (albeit noisy) threats with phony LARTs(1), Another one for which you have champion standing, murphy. Lots and lots of claims that someone-or-other is about to lose their usenet access. Funny how every single time the person you're threatening continues posting to usenet, though, hmm? false police reports, and harassing letters to the FBI and other gubbermint agencies. Not aware of any of these from you, but false complaints to news providers? You betcha. * Be vigilant in your redundancy. The more you repeat yourself, the more likely others will believe you! Murphy, of course, being the bronze medallist in this particular category of the k00klympics (the silver and gold rightly belong to * US * in the politics groups and to tholen in comp.os.os2.advocacy, respectively). How many times has he been repeating his anti-Derbyshire screeds, in particular? Hundreds? A couple thousand? * If you can't find anyone as crazy as yourself to support you in the flamewars you start with the normal population, create sock puppets and use anonymous remailers that shamelessly hang on every word you write. The more your fake personalities adulate you, the more respect you'll get! Would "Felching Google" and "Frenz of THAT WURM" in news.software.readers count as such sock puppets, murphy? ;) * Always remain clueproof. As soon as the clue-proof vest was invented, murphy bought one. * When responding to one line challenges, post paragraphs of rants and screed in response. Murphy is the gold medallist in the "paragraphs of rants and screed" category, natch. * Incoherency is not a roadblock to poasting(2). Another gold. * Neither is illiteracy. And another. Read any three murphy posts and it's clear how he fits these last two categories to a 'T'. * Delusions poasted often enough become fact. Wow, the golds are really racking up. Australia is a shoo-in for the most k00klympics medals, just from this one single allegedly-retiring athlete of theirs! * Claim you will destroy <insert newsfroup(3)> for attacking you. Does it count if you claim that an all-powerful arch-nemesis of yours is bent on destroying newsgroups (and/or all of Usenet, depending on how (il) lucid you are at any given moment) and will succeed if your demands are not immediately heeded? * When spnaked(4), send cmsg(5) for Fanboi(6) newsfroup(s). Does trying to create anti-fan newsgroups for your alleged enemies count? * Find your Lame, Use your Lame, Be your Lame! If you look up "lame" in the dictionary, you'll probably find a picture of murphy. * Post Edit when the TRVTH hurts. Remember "xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"? And "[ret fxd]"? Those are things you often replace the ends of lines in quoted posts with, usually obliterating a crucial claim made against you by a critic. * Always sneck(7) the offending newsfroups. Does silent followup redirection, usually to alt.free.newsservers, aioe.news.helpdesk, or news.admin.net-abuse.usenet count, murphy? * Always poast pictures of yourself so you can be admired in all your k00ky glory. As uuencodes posted into text newsgroups, natch. * Always accuse others of the very acts you are guilty of. You posting the URL to this list of k00k traits being a prime example, murphy. (Does the metaness of the irony in this instance make it tangentially on-topic in comp.lang.lisp?) Then there's the fact that most of the noise in the newsgroup alt.free.newsservers consists of a) murphy complaining about noise in afn and b) followups to same. * Post lots of boasts about your high IQ and incredible talents. If stalking, harassment, and having racked up "scalps" by counting the number of other usenetters you've made miserable qualify as "talents", then you're guilty of boasts, too, murphy. * Always <plonk>(8) somebody just before replying the plonkee! What about claiming to be leaving Usenet forever, then coming back as another morph instead? You've done that quite a few times. * Write a self-published book and claim it a success. Bonus points for comparing it to "Mein Kampf" and/or the Bible. I'm not aware that you've done this one. * Declare yourself equal to a deity of your choice. Or this one. * Claim that you've come from other planets. Or this one. * Claim thousands of past lives. Does serial nymshifting count? * Frothing complaints carry far more weight when you send them from "legal@" some domain. Unaware of murphy doing this, alas. * Nothing strikes terror into the hearts of your detractors more than telling them that you're archiving their messages for possible use in the future. On the other hand, murphy wins another gold k00klympics medal in the much- anticipated "archive-of-terror" event! * Never forget that everyone else posting to Usenet is a paid disinformation agent looking to discredit you. Did murphy's paranoia go quite that far? * Usenet is governed by US law. If a poster in Romania killfiles you, he's obviously violating your 1st Amendment rights and can be sued. Not aware of that level of silliness from murphy -- on the other hand, various antinational bigotries from murphy have been evident. * Every news admin in the world hangs out in NANAU(9), and they're just dying to nuke the account of that meanyhead who just called you "fucknozzle". Drop 'em a line - that's what they're there for, after all. Is there any chance the judges of the k00klympics can be persuaded to add a special "platinum medal" for spectacular overachievement in an event? * AUK(10) will be closed down. Just you wait and see. Not sure if murphy can be considered to "win" in this category. He hung out there for a while, then it kinda did get closed down as an eventual result of a defamation lawsuit and has not been the same since. * They've nuked hundreds of accounts in the name of free speech and *yours* will be next. Another gold. Murphy even claims that it's in the interests of free speech, specifically, that he goes around bullying and threatening people. * Abuse women while telling how many hundreds you've loved. Nevermind that you're one ugly motherfucker and that there were 30,000 femininas that thought you were a scumbag with bad teeth. No evidence that murphy can get any medals in this category, fortunately for the women of the world. * Remember that your ko0ky klaims are 'facts', and that 'facts' do not require proof. I think we're now out of gold to make murphy's medals from. Will copper do as a substitute? * Do not neglect to poast your responses to forums that the originator doesn't read. This will make the people in that forum very impressed with how you tear him to shreds without him being able to respond. They like it even better if you are off-topic for that forum. I think I'm investing heavily in copper futures. I foresee a sudden shortage soon. * Keep in mind that lack of evidence supporting your konspiracy theory actually _is_ evidence, of how effective the konspiracy is in hiding. Is claiming that lack of action by news admins is evidence of their stupidity sufficient here? Or does murphy lose this k00klympic event on a technicality? Judges, your ruling, please... * Any problems with your poasts are the fault of the konspirators, who are trying to stop you from preventing the extinction of humanity. Is "the destruction of Usenet" enough, or does it *have* to be "the extinction of humanity"? * Konspiracies that are able to subvert whole governments are always unable to silence konspiracy ko0ks. Similarly, a Derbyshire that's able to subvert whole news servers is always unable to silence a single murphy, even one posting from those same news servers. * The entire United States government is willing to spend millions of dollars for the sole purpose of harassing you. Not sure if murphy's paranoia has progressed this far yet. * Hollywood is making movies based on your personal life. Or this far. * Do not consult psychiatrists or other mental health professionals. They are part of the konspiracy, and will sedate you and lock you away and keep you drugged if you tell them the truth. The ironic thing here is that the paranoid k00k is probably right. Yet this stops him getting the help he so desperately needs. * Numerology and Astrology are respectable sciences and are useful for proving your case. Does posting elaborate analyses of IP addresses (or even hashed NNTP- Posting-Host or X-Trace headers) in an attempt to divine who's a sock of who count as "numerology"? (If so, then we may need to expand the k00klympics playing fields to make room for vast numbers of RIAA and MPAA lawyers, too. You know, those guys who sent a DMCA takedown to a laser printer whose IP was submitted to a torrent tracker but wasn't, obviously, hosting any files, and who have also harassed operators of open WiFi nodes?) * Everyone is Tim Hill, or David Green, or... Paul Derbyshire? * There is a fine line between trolling and kookery. Find that line and cross it repeatedly. When you are killfiled and/or LARTed for net.abuse as a result, claim victory. If you lose multiple accounts, this merely proves that you are indeed a world-class troll, with a black-belt in manipulation. The one thing murphy hasn't done, to my knowledge, is claim victory. And when he's been LARTed he's denied it (and quickly gotten a new account at the same provider -- don't they check for that???). * If you respond to every post someone else makes, they're obsessed. If they respond to less than 1% of your posts, they're even more obsessed. And if 90% of your posts reference them, whoever they are in direct response to, *you're* obsessed. * Publishing people's real names, addresses, and phone numbers when there's no other way for you to come out of a flamewar with any dignity is cool, and proves that you are a master of secret internet information stores, and absolutely not to be fucked with. Time to open a platinum mine. I think the k00klympics committee will be needing this precious metal in quantity, soon. I could get rich! * Everyone is out to get you. You can put a stop to this by telling everyone that they're out to get you at every available opportunity. My copper mine is running dry now. * You are the only sane one. It's completely played out now. * Those that give you a hard time about morally bankrupt things you yourself admit to are just persecutioners of the new inquisition. Like when you trashed Movable Hype in aioe.news.helpdesk for exposing one of your forgeries, and then added him to your list of members of the Derbyshire Konspiracy? * Yelling in all caps and cursing at your detractors is debate. I seem to recall some use of caps and a *lot* of "fukhaid" and similar invective in the murphy posts I've seen; the phlatArse posts from 2008 are even clearer examples, literally dribbling with scatological and sexual expletives. * Your detractors laughing at you with sarcastic remarks is obvious anger and jealousy. And of course they're all part of the Konspiracy, right, murphy? * If doing something results in the loss of your account, legal hassles, or blunt trauma injury, do it again. It always works better the second time. Not sure of murphy having been quite *that* badly pwn3d... * Asterisks, lots and lots of Asterisks. I hope the bullets in my transcription of your list don't count. * Poking holes in kookscreed is stalking, and is a felony. Or at least evidence of being part of the Derbyshire Konspiracy, right, murphy? * K00ks LOVE to "connect the dots". They are, of course, dots that only the k00k can see. Platinum mine now open for business. * "They laughed at Einstein, too!" One more where murphy fails to enter the event, for mysterious reasons. Let's tally it up, shall we? Out of seventy events in the k00klympics, murphy either didn't enter or failed to place in 14. In the other 4/5 he medalled, as follows: 18 bronze medals. 12 silver medals. 23 gold/copper medals. And we had to add platinum medals for breaking all-time world records by huge margins, which murphy won in no fewer than three events. I think we can safely crown murphy the all-time champion k00k at this point!
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| From | "Deeyana" <d.awlberg@hotmail.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-09-12 06:54 +0000 |
| Subject | Ten years ago today, bin Laden destroyed America. All mourn. (was Re: [update]) |
| Message-ID | <j4kkc4$1o0$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #1032 |
On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 05:54:06 +0000 (UTC) k00k
Paul G Derbyshire forged my "nym" to post:
>On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 03:28:58 +0000, murphy wrote:
>
>> http://www.searchlores.org/way_kook.htm
>
>THE WAY OF THE K00K
>
>* Never learn from your mistakes.
how cute, cut and paste from the link your nemises fed you.
Message-ID: <j4js91$arp$1@dont-email.me>
___________________________________________________________________
.*.
-() < Q. What is it that holds the
`*' Derbyshire world together.
A. The brewing pot of 'shroom tea.
____________________________________________________________________
For those newbies who do find all of this (below) as TMI [too much information],
choosing to "skip it", I offer this piece of advice.
Skip it if you must but at least take the time to read the page at the link
below. Therein is an understanding of what to avoid in becoming one, ever.
Anything else and someday someone just like myself (when I was
keen and motivated) will pop your cork, turning you over... forever.
AUK [alt.usenet.kooks] is littered with the walking talking 'bodies' of persons
who failed to listen to basic concepts when first addressing Usenet.
Usenet is **not** a Fool's Paradise, more of a Purgatory.
Take the lesson, play "nice".
The people who will crow the loudest at my passing are those whom I
(myself) have impacted on in their Life, true headcases, swinging from
my belt.
These are the losers who could not control their software, and thus
could not control their Read, leaving their grey cells (quanity unknown)
reverbrating with a pressure to post. That was their mistake.. resist
making it yours.
Newbies read:
http://www.searchlores.org/way_kook.htm
*******************************************
I will be sure to watch you spew even more, k00k.
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| From | thoolen <tholen01@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-09-12 04:40 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Ten years ago today, bin Laden destroyed America. All mourn. (was Re: [update]) |
| Message-ID | <2c0f56d5-88cc-45d4-874d-2566940f7bcc@eb1g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #1036 |
On Sep 12, 2:54 am, "Deeyana" <d.awlberg@hotmail.invalid> was forged
by murphy, who wrote:
NaN> Newsgroups:
talk.politics.misc,comp.lang.java.help,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.lisp,comp.os.os2.advocacy
NaN> On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 05:54:06 +0000 (UTC) k00k
NaN> Paul G Derbyshire forged my "nym" to post:
What does your ironic classic unsusbtantiated and erroneous claim have
to do with politics, Java, Lisp, or OS/2, murphy? Deeyana wrote the
post you're following up to, and did not forge you in any way, murphy.
On the other hand, you subsequently did forge her, murphy. How ironic.
Oh, and who is "Paul G Derbyshire", murphy? There is nobody in this
newsgroup using that alias.
NaN> how cute, cut and paste from the link your nemises fed you.
I very much doubt you rise to the level of being Deeyana's nemesis
(note spelling), murphy, or anybody else's. I suspect a better
comparison would be an itch on her small toe, or a mosquito bite on
her left arm, or some similarly minor nuisance, murphy.
NaN> Message-ID: <j4js91$arp$1@dont-email.me>
What does that have to do with politics, Java, Lisp, or OS/2, murphy?
NaN>
___________________________________________________________________
NaN> .*.
NaN> -() < Q. What is it that holds the
NaN> `*' Derbyshire world together.
NaN> A. The brewing pot of 'shroom tea.
NaN>
____________________________________________________________________
What is "the Derbyshire world", murphy, and what does it have to do
with politics, Java, Lisp, or OS/2? And what is that thing left of the
Q, and what does it have to do with politics, Java, Lisp, or OS/2?
NaN> For those newbies who do find all of this (below) as TMI [too
much information],
NaN> choosing to "skip it", I offer this piece of advice.
What does your bad advice to newbies have to do with politics, Java,
Lisp, or OS/2, murphy?
NaN> Skip it if you must but at least take the time to read the page
at the link
NaN> below. Therein is an understanding of what to avoid in becoming
one, ever.
Classic ambiguity.
NaN> Anything else and someday someone just like myself (when I was
NaN> keen and motivated) will pop your cork, turning you over...
forever.
What does your vague threat towards newbies have to do with politics,
Java, Lisp, or OS/2, murphy?
NaN> AUK [alt.usenet.kooks] is littered with the walking talking
'bodies' of persons
NaN> who failed to listen to basic concepts when first addressing
Usenet.
How ironic.
NaN> Usenet is **not** a Fool's Paradise, more of a Purgatory.
How ironic.
NaN> Take the lesson, play "nice".
What does your demand have to do with politics, Java, Lisp, or OS/2,
murphy?
NaN> The people who will crow the loudest at my passing are those whom
I
NaN> (myself) have impacted on in their Life, true headcases, swinging
from
NaN> my belt.
What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
with politics, Java, Lisp, or OS/2, murphy?
NaN> These are the losers who could not control their software, and
thus
NaN> could not control their Read, leaving their grey cells (quanity
unknown)
NaN> reverbrating with a pressure to post. That was their mistake..
resist
NaN> making it yours.
What does your hallucination have to do with politics, Java, Lisp, or
OS/2, murphy?
NaN> Newbies read: http://www.searchlores.org/way_kook.htm
What does your kookiness have to do with politics, Java, Lisp, or OS/
2, murphy?
NaN> *******************************************
Wasn't "overuse of asterisks" one of the items on that kooky-traits
list that Deeyana said you *weren't* prone to?
How ironic.
NaN> I will be sure to watch you spew even more, k00k.
Who is "k00k", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that
alias.
"I had 'volunteered (years back) to support those who do endeavor
to
provide free Free Usenet access, support those who offered
subscription based
Free Usenet access, nothing more than cooperation expected in
return for what
has been many thousands of hours of work. I note
most of those I joined with are either deceased, severely
disabled, or plain
ole' MIA.. now it is my Time. ...
You just read my last. ...
For those who think they see me in future times I can only wish
you severe
Tinnitus in your dreams. For those who know me well (eMail,
whatever) and
see me, know I will be smiling also. It is to you I say "adieu
mein
frenz and adios .. grazie' [hugs] for all the Good Times! May you
and
yours always bear well with all Life brings you".
/0ut"
--murphy
See why I call those "Famous Last Words"?
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| From | "thoolen" <th00len@th0lenbot.thorium> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-09-12 08:46 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Ten years ago today, bin Laden destroyed America. All mourn. (was Re: [update]) |
| Message-ID | <j4kt78$b4t$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #1040 |
On Sep 12, 2:54am, Paul Derbysh!re AKA "Deeyana" <d.awlberg@hotmail.invalidna>
flexed his ass scratchers to post:
naNaN> Newsgroups:
na>talk.politics.misc,comp.lang.java.help,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.=
na>lisp,comp.os.os2.advocacy
na>
naNaN> On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 05:54:06 +0000 (UTC) k00k
naNaN> Paul G Derbysh!re forged my "nym" to post:
na>
na>What does your ironic classic unsusbtantiated and erroneous claim have
na>to do with politics, Java, Lisp, or OS/2, murphy? Deeyana wrote the
na>post you're following up to, and did not forge you in any way, murphy.
na>On the other hand, you subsequently did forge her, murphy. How ironic.
na>
na>Oh, and who is "Paul G Derbysh!re", murphy? There is nobody in this
na>newsgroup using that alias.
na>
naNaN> how cute, cut and paste from the link your nemises fed you.
na>
na>I very much doubt you rise to the level of being Deeyana's nemesis
na>(note spelling), murphy, or anybody else's. I suspect a better
na>comparison would be an itch on her small toe, or a mosquito bite on
na>her left arm, or some similarly minor nuisance, murphy.
being female sure appeals to your lack
of balls, Squirrell Boy!
shek my names again.
anything else is forgery!
--- . ... ..- ... <tharrison77107@h0tmail.invalid>
00101010 <zerozeroonezeroonezeroonezero@h2g2.cazoola>
3k7e4intna <3k7e4intna@se0tfbhc.k3y0a.p0z>
3x+r4v4g4n <extr4v4g4n@fr0gs0up.x3l0n.c0m>
Alice <quaxx1108@example.com>
Arne Këndoj <akendoj103@foof.fcl3.org>
Boojum <boojum42@gmai1.c0m>
B1ll Gat3s <wm.g4t3s@m1cr0s0f7.c0m>
Canuck <canuck107@canada.xyz>
Cthun <cthun_117@qmail.net.au>
Chad Carmichael <c_carm10782.x@y.z>
dark-zark-fark <dzf190485@rutgers.edu>
Deep Green <d_green11908@gmail.com> (forgery)
Deeyana <d.awlberg@hotmail.invalid>
De Lurker <delancey_s113@harvard.nospam.invalid>
Derek Yancey <dy190295683@nospam.invalid>
Extravagan <extravagan@frogsoup.xelon.com>
Ferdinand the -14th <foo@bar.invalid>
Fuschia, President-Elect of the Bright Purplish-Green Council <fp-eotbp-gc@ibm.com>
George Arctos <g.arctos11@hormair.cor>
Greg Kelly <gkelly101_4@gmai1.c0m>
Greg Sandoval <g_sandoval@gcsma.edu.br>
Gheerax IV <gheerax.4@gmail.invalid>
Handkea fumosa <hfumosa@gmail.com>
Hieronymus S. Freely <hsfreely@xavier.uwsc.edu>
Hydrocon <hcon77107@geemail.corn>
Henry Harrison <hharr.1082@quux.bar.foo>
Henderson <h1@g1.f1>
Heike Svensson <hsvensson.1093x1_q@hotmail.nospam.com.please>
Harry Greer <h_greer_1099348@gmail.xxx>
Janie Zanie <jjezebel916@gmai1.invalid>
Jerry Gerrone <scuzwalla@gmail.com>
John Kirkpatrick XVII <jkxvii@ask.me>
Katie Gerrolds <k.gerrolds@nbfinlan.net>
Kevin Hadron <kh_mu_meson@q.us>
kensi <kensi_kensington@zoonoses.de>
KitKat <kitkat_11697@gmail.example.com>
Meerkats <mk_ultra.19018@gmail.com> (forgery)
Mister Scott <m_scott.19477b@noggles.corn>
Mrs. Danforth <danforth_a@hotmail.coo>
Mike Faramis <m_faramis808@qmail.nospam.net>
Mamac <mmc.19384_b@gmai1.com>
Nancy 3 <n3@gmai1.c0m>
Nancy 4 <n4@gmai1.c0m> (forgery)
Nebulous <nebulous99@gmail.com>
Nightcrawler <Dirtydeeds@dirtcheap.net>
Nougat Surprise <nsurprise@noway.nohow.invalid>
Orange Green <og_b1823@netmail.zoog.com.au>
Paul Derbysh!re <pgderb@gmail.com>
Purpleswandir <ps_1201294@gmail.com>
RichB <rich_barnsley@nowhere.com>
scuzwalla@gmail.com
SFTV_troll <SFTV_troll@yah.right>
Sulfide Eater <zaxx1108@example.com>
<supercalifragilisticexpialadiamaticonormalizeringelimatisticantations@averylongandannoyingdomainname.com>
Spock <spock@starfleet.ufp>
Series Expansion <serexp1@gmail.com>
Seamus MacRae <smacrae319@live.ca.invalid>
Snicker-snack! <ssnack119@g00glema1l.c0m>
Tim <tharrison77107@h0tmail.invalid>
Thursday's Leftovers <thursday.197@hotmail.com>
thoolen <thoolen@tholenbot.thorium>
thoolen <tholen01@gmail.com>
thoolen <th00len@th0lenbot.thorium>
<th00len@th0lenbot.thorium>
Willy Wonka <w.wonk1028_x@gmail.xyz>
sop that lot up with your used ass tampon!
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| From | thoolen <tholen01@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-09-12 21:02 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Ten years ago today, bin Laden destroyed America. All mourn. (was Re: [update]) |
| Message-ID | <df2865ea-e9cc-443e-b78d-f2db965f0a20@n35g2000yqf.googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #1041 |
On Sep 12, 8:46 am, murphy wrote:
NaN> Newsgroups:
talk.politics.misc,comp.lang.java.help,comp.lang.java.programmer
NaN> On Sep 12, 2:54am, Paul Derbysh!re AKA "Deeyana"
<d.awlberg@hotmail.invalidna>
NaN> flexed his ass scratchers to post:
What does your unsubstantiated claim regarding Deeyana's identity have
to do with politics or Java, murphy? And who is "Paul Derbysh!re",
murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias.
NaN> being female sure appeals to your lack
NaN> of balls, Squirrell Boy!
Who is "Squirrell Boy", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.
NaN> shek my names again.
What is "shek", murphy, and what does it have to do with politics or
Java?
NaN> anything else is forgery!
What do your forgeries have to do with politics or Java, murphy?
NaN> --- . ... ..- ... <tharrison77...@h0tmail.invalid>
NaN> 00101010 <zerozeroonezeroonezeroonez...@h2g2.cazoola>
NaN> 3k7e4intna <3k7e4in...@se0tfbhc.k3y0a.p0z>
NaN> 3x+r4v4g4n <extr4v4...@fr0gs0up.x3l0n.c0m>
NaN> Alice <quaxx1...@example.com>
NaN> Arne Këndoj <akendoj...@foof.fcl3.org>
NaN> Boojum <booju...@gmai1.c0m>
NaN> B1ll Gat3s <wm.g4...@m1cr0s0f7.c0m>
NaN> Canuck <canuck...@canada.xyz>
NaN> Cthun <cthun_...@qmail.net.au>
NaN> Chad Carmichael <c_carm1078...@y.z>
NaN> dark-zark-fark <dzf190...@rutgers.edu>
NaN> Deep Green <d_green11...@gmail.com> (forgery)
NaN> Deeyana <d.awlb...@hotmail.invalid>
NaN> De Lurker <delancey_s...@harvard.nospam.invalid>
NaN> Derek Yancey <dy190295...@nospam.invalid>
NaN> Extravagan <extrava...@frogsoup.xelon.com>
NaN> Ferdinand the -14th <f...@bar.invalid>
NaN> Fuschia, President-Elect of the Bright Purplish-Green Council <fp-
eotbp...@ibm.com>
NaN> George Arctos <g.arcto...@hormair.cor>
NaN> Greg Kelly <gkelly10...@gmai1.c0m>
NaN> Greg Sandoval <g_sando...@gcsma.edu.br>
NaN> Gheerax IV <gheera...@gmail.invalid>
NaN> Handkea fumosa <hfum...@gmail.com>
NaN> Hieronymus S. Freely <hsfre...@xavier.uwsc.edu>
NaN> Hydrocon <hcon77...@geemail.corn>
NaN> Henry Harrison <hharr.1...@quux.bar.foo>
NaN> Henderson <h...@g1.f1>
NaN> Heike Svensson <hsvensson.1093x...@hotmail.nospam.com.please>
NaN> Harry Greer <h_greer_1099...@gmail.xxx>
NaN> Janie Zanie <jjezebel...@gmai1.invalid>
NaN> Jerry Gerrone <scuzwa...@gmail.com>
NaN> John Kirkpatrick XVII <jkx...@ask.me>
NaN> Katie Gerrolds <k.gerro...@nbfinlan.net>
NaN> Kevin Hadron <kh_mu_me...@q.us>
NaN> kensi <kensi_kensing...@zoonoses.de>
NaN> KitKat <kitkat_11...@gmail.example.com>
NaN> Meerkats <mk_ultra.19...@gmail.com> (forgery)
NaN> Mister Scott <m_scott.194...@noggles.corn>
NaN> Mrs. Danforth <danfort...@hotmail.coo>
NaN> Mike Faramis <m_faramis...@qmail.nospam.net>
NaN> Mamac <mmc.1938...@gmai1.com>
NaN> Nancy 3 <n...@gmai1.c0m>
NaN> Nancy 4 <n...@gmai1.c0m> (forgery)
NaN> Nebulous <nebulou...@gmail.com>
NaN> Nightcrawler <Dirtyde...@dirtcheap.net>
NaN> Nougat Surprise <nsurpr...@noway.nohow.invalid>
NaN> Orange Green <og_b1...@netmail.zoog.com.au>
NaN> Paul Derbysh!re <pgd...@gmail.com>
NaN> Purpleswandir <ps_1201...@gmail.com>
NaN> RichB <rich_barns...@nowhere.com>
NaN> scuzwa...@gmail.com
NaN> SFTV_troll <SFTV_tr...@yah.right>
NaN> Sulfide Eater <zaxx1...@example.com>
NaN>
<supercalifragilisticexpialadiamaticonormalizeringelimatisticantati...@averylongandannoyingdomainname.com>
NaN> Spock <sp...@starfleet.ufp>
NaN> Series Expansion <sere...@gmail.com>
NaN> Seamus MacRae <smacrae...@live.ca.invalid>
NaN> Snicker-snack! <ssnack...@g00glema1l.c0m>
NaN> Tim <tharrison77...@h0tmail.invalid>
NaN> Thursday's Leftovers <thursday....@hotmail.com>
NaN> thoolen <thoo...@tholenbot.thorium>
NaN> thoolen <thole...@gmail.com>
NaN> thoolen <th00...@th0lenbot.thorium>
NaN> <th00...@th0lenbot.thorium>
NaN> Willy Wonka <w.wonk102...@gmail.xyz>
What does your long list of names and email addresses of random
internet users have to do with politics or Java, murphy? Starting your
own spamming business, murphy? Look closely, murphy. Many of the email
addresses are obviously invalid, murphy.
NaN> sop that lot up with your used ass tampon!
What does your rude demand of Deeyana have to do with politics or
Java, murphy?
"I had 'volunteered (years back) to support those who do endeavor
to provide free Free Usenet access, support those who offered
subscription based Free Usenet access, nothing more than
cooperation expected in return for what has been many
thousands of hours of work. I note most of those I joined with
are either deceased, severely disabled, or plain ole' MIA..
now it is my Time. ...
You just read my last. ...
For those who think they see me in future times I can only wish
you severe Tinnitus in your dreams. For those who know me
well (eMail, whatever) and see me, know I will be smiling also.
It is to you I say "adieu mein frenz and adios .. grazie' [hugs]
for all the Good Times! May you and yours always bear well
with all Life brings you".
/0ut"
--murphy
And people wonder why I call them Famous Last Words.
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| From | "tholen@antispam.ham" <tholen@ifa.hawaii.edu> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-09-12 15:25 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Ten years ago today, bin Laden destroyed America. All mourn. (was Re: [update]) |
| Message-ID | <56dfd90a-7519-415b-95da-e16bff7c93c9@x11g2000prb.googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #1040 |
thoolen <tholen01@gmail.com> writes: 75> Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,comp.lang.java.help,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.lisp,comp.os.os2.advocacy 75> What does your ironic classic unsusbtantiated and erroneous claim have 75> to do with politics, Java, Lisp, or OS/2, murphy? Deeyana wrote the 75> post you're following up to, and did not forge you in any way, murphy. 75> On the other hand, you subsequently did forge her, murphy. How ironic. 75> Oh, and who is "Paul G Derbyshire", murphy? There is nobody in this 75> newsgroup using that alias. 75> I very much doubt you rise to the level of being Deeyana's nemesis 75> (note spelling), murphy, or anybody else's. I suspect a better 75> comparison would be an itch on her small toe, or a mosquito bite on 75> her left arm, or some similarly minor nuisance, murphy. 75> What does that have to do with politics, Java, Lisp, or OS/2, murphy? 75> What is "the Derbyshire world", murphy, and what does it have to do 75> with politics, Java, Lisp, or OS/2? And what is that thing left of the 75> Q, and what does it have to do with politics, Java, Lisp, or OS/2? 75> What does your bad advice to newbies have to do with politics, Java, 75> Lisp, or OS/2, murphy? 75> Classic ambiguity. 75> What does your vague threat towards newbies have to do with politics, 75> Java, Lisp, or OS/2, murphy? 75> How ironic. 75> How ironic. 75> What does your demand have to do with politics, Java, Lisp, or OS/ 2, 75> murphy? 75> What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do 75> with politics, Java, Lisp, or OS/2, murphy? 75> What does your hallucination have to do with politics, Java, Lisp, or 75> OS/2, murphy? 75> What does your kookiness have to do with politics, Java, Lisp, or OS/ 75> 2, murphy? 75> Wasn't "overuse of asterisks" one of the items on that kooky- traits 75> list that Deeyana said you *weren't* prone to? 75> How ironic. 75> Who is "k00k", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that 75> alias. 75> See why I call those "Famous Last Words"? Rather ironic that you should suddenly show any interest in relevance to the newsgroup, "thoolen". 76> Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp,comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv 76> shek my names again. 76> anything else is forgery! 76> sop that lot up with your used ass tampon! What does your instruction have to do with OS/2, "thoolen"?
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| From | thoolen <tholen01@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-09-12 20:37 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Ten years ago today, bin Laden destroyed America. All mourn. (was Re: [update]) |
| Message-ID | <66de3215-ca76-4c61-b65a-01aed9670236@g31g2000yqh.googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #1043 |
On Sep 12, 6:25 pm, "tholen@antispam.ham" <tholen@ifa.hawaii.edu> wrote: /!\> Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,comp.lang.java.help,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.lisp,comp.os.os2.advocacy /!\> Rather ironic that you should suddenly show any interest in /!\> relevance to the newsgroup, "thoolen". What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with politics, Java, Lisp, or OS/2, tholenbot? /!\> What does your instruction have to do with OS/2, "thoolen"? That was a forgery, technetium. Do try to keep up, tholian. And what does your question have to do with politics, Java, or Lisp, thalidomide?
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| From | "tholen@antispam.ham" <tholen@ifa.hawaii.edu> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-09-12 15:18 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Ten years ago today, bin Laden destroyed America. All mourn. (was Re: [update]) |
| Message-ID | <0afd5644-4127-4137-b28b-ca2bec35484b@x11g2000prb.googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #1036 |
Deeyana <d.awlberg@hotmail.invalid> writes: 22> Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,comp.lang.java.help,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.lisp,comp.os.os2.advocacy 22> THE WAY OF THE K00K What does your WAY have to do with OS/2, Deeyana? 23> Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,comp.lang.java.help,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.lisp,comp.os.os2.advocacy 23> how cute, cut and paste from the link your nemises fed you. What does your evaluation of cuteness have to do with OS/2, Deeyana?
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| From | Deeyana <d.awlberg@hotmail.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-09-13 00:42 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Ten years ago today, bin Laden destroyed America. All mourn. (was Re: [update]) |
| Message-ID | <j4m8t0$om$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #1044 |
On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 15:18:41 -0700, tholen@antispam.ham wrote: > 22> THE WAY OF THE K00K > > What does your WAY have to do with OS/2, Deeyana? It's not my way, it's murphy's way, and yours, tholenbot. > What does your evaluation of cuteness have to do with OS/2, Deeyana? It wasn't mine, tholenbot; that post was a forgery, tholenbot. Do try to keep up, tholenbot.
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| From | Deeyana <d.awlberg@hotmail.invalid> |
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| Date | 2011-09-13 00:46 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Ten years ago today, bin Laden destroyed America. All mourn. (was Re: [update]) |
| Message-ID | <j4m95h$om$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #1036 |
On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 06:54:06 +0000, someone claiming to be me wrote: > how cute, cut and paste from the link your nemises fed you. How cute, a forgery. Perhaps I should see if I can get your E-S account yanked for posting it.
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| From | Deeyana <d.awlberg@hotmail.invalid> |
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| Date | 2011-09-13 00:48 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Ten years ago today, bin Laden destroyed America. All mourn. (was Re: [update]) |
| Message-ID | <j4m998$om$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #1046 |
On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 06:54:06 +0000, someone claiming to be me wrote: > how cute, cut and paste from the link your nemises fed you. and I wrote How cute, a forgery. Perhaps I should see if I can get your E- S account yanked for posting it. On second thought, I think I'll let you keep it, and thus let you keep making a fool of yourself in public with it, turdball.
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| From | "tholen@antispam.ham" <tholen@ifa.hawaii.edu> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-09-19 15:27 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Ten years ago today, bin Laden destroyed America. All mourn. (was Re: [update]) |
| Message-ID | <105fb7e4-e7f7-4968-87d7-eb94e197667e@z5g2000yqf.googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #1047 |
Deeyana <d.awlberg@hotmail.invalid> writes: 24> Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,comp.lang.java.help,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.lisp,comp.os.os2.advocacy 24> It's not my way, it's murphy's way, and yours, tholenbot. Who is "tholenbot", Deeyana? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias. 24> It wasn't mine, tholenbot; that post was a forgery, tholenbot. Do try to 24> keep up, tholenbot. Who is "tholenbot", Deeyana? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias. Having trouble keeping up, Deeyana? 25> Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,comp.lang.java.help,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.lisp,comp.os.os2.advocacy 25> How cute, a forgery. Perhaps I should see if I can get your E-S account 25> yanked for posting it. What does your evaluation of cuteness have to do with OS/2, Deeyana? 26> Newsgroups: alt.politics,comp.lang.java.help,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.lisp,comp.os.os2.advocacy 26> and I wrote How cute, a forgery. Perhaps I should see if I can get your E- 26> S account yanked for posting it. 26> On second thought, I think I'll let you keep it, and thus let you keep 26> making a fool of yourself in public with it, turdball. Who is "turdball", Deeyana? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias.
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| From | Deeyana <d.awlberg@hotmail.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-09-22 00:18 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Ten years ago today, bin Laden destroyed America. All mourn. (was Re: [update]) |
| Message-ID | <j5dutc$pb5$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #1064 |
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 15:27:54 -0700, tholen@antispam.ham wrote: > Having trouble keeping up, Deeyana? Not at all, thobabe, but thanks anyway for your concern. :)
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| From | "tholen@antispam.ham" <tholen@ifa.hawaii.edu> |
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| Date | 2011-09-21 19:47 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Ten years ago today, bin Laden destroyed America. All mourn. (was Re: [update]) |
| Message-ID | <63e0032d-668d-438c-96f6-a73562d770f4@c22g2000yqa.googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #1075 |
Deeyana <d.awlberg@hotmail.invalid> writes: 27> Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,comp.lang.java.help,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.lisp,comp.os.os2.advocacy 27> Not at all, thobabe, but thanks anyway for your concern. :) Who is "thobabe", Deeyana? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias.
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| From | "tholen@antispam.ham" <tholen@ifa.hawaii.edu> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-09-19 15:40 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Ten years ago today, bin Laden destroyed America. All mourn.(was Re: [update]) |
| Message-ID | <d8221868-d47e-4c6e-9440-7518186fa63f@d2g2000vbk.googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #1047 |
thoolen <tholen01@gmail.com> writes: 80> Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,comp.lang.java.help,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.lisp,comp.os.os2.advocacy 80> What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with 80> politics, Java, Lisp, or OS/2, tholenbot? Who is "tholenbot", "thoolen"? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias. 80> That was a forgery, technetium. Who is "technetium", "thoolen"? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias. 80> Do try to keep up, tholian. Who is "tholian", "thoolen"? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias. Having trouble keeping up, "thoolen"? 80> And what 80> does your question have to do with politics, Java, or Lisp, 80> thalidomide? Who is "thalidomide", "thoolen"? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias. 81> Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp,comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv 81> What does your hallucination have to do with Lisp, OS/2, or 81> television, murphy? And who is "Paul Derbysh!re", murphy? There is 81> nobody in this newsgroup using that alias. How ironic. 81> Who is "Squirrell Boy", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup 81> using that alias. How ironic. 81> What is "shek", murphy, and what does it have to do with Lisp, OS/ 2, 81> or television? Rather ironic that you should suddenly show any interest in relevance to the newsgroup, "thoolen". 81> What do your forgeries have to do with Lisp, OS/2, or television, 81> murphy? Rather ironic that you should suddenly show any interest in relevance to the newsgroup, "thoolen". 81> What does your long list of names and email addresses of random 81> internet users have to do with Java, murphy? Starting your own 81> spamming business, murphy? Look closely, murphy. Many of the email 81> addresses are obviously invalid, murphy. Rather ironic that you should suddenly show any interest in relevance to the newsgroup, "thoolen". 81> What does your rude demand of Deeyana have to do with Lisp, OS/2, or 81> television, murphy? Rather ironic that you should suddenly show any interest in relevance to the newsgroup, "thoolen". 81> And people wonder why I call them Famous Last Words. 82> Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.os.os2.advocacy 82> Who is "PGD", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias. 82> What does your URL have to do with Lisp, Java, or OS/2, murphy? 82> What does your hallucination have to do with Lisp, Java, or OS/2, murphy? 82> Who is "paul", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias. 82> Who is "paul", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias. 82> What does your vague threat towards Deeyana have to do with Lisp, Java, 82> or OS/2, murphy? 82> What does your directive to Deeyana have to do with Lisp, Java, or OS/2, 82> murphy? 82> What does your earlier lie have to do with Lisp, Java, or OS/2, murphy? 82> Who is "you poor sad mad bastard", murphy? There is nobody in this 82> newsgroup using that alias. 82> What do your netKKKopin' hopes have to do with Lisp, Java, or OS/ 2, murphy? 82> What does your amusement at your own trolling antics have to do with 82> Lisp, Java, or OS/2, murphy? 82> What does your thickheadedness have to do with Lisp, Java, or OS/ 2, murphy? 82> What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with Lisp, 82> Java, or OS/2, murphy? 82> Who is "the Canadian fucking halfwit PLONK", murphy? There is nobody in 82> this newsgroup using that alias. 82> What does your threat to Deeyana have to do with Lisp, Java, or OS/ 2, 82> murphy? 82> What does your request of Deeyana have to do with Lisp, Java, or OS/2, 82> murphy? 82> What does your unsubstantiated allegation regarding Deeyana have to do 82> with Lisp, Java, or OS/2, murphy? Rather ironic when Deeyana had just 82> recently exposed two of *your* sockpuppets in news.software.readers, murphy. 82> Who is "Wolfgang", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that 82> alias. 82> What does your unsubstantiated claim regarding Deeyana have to do with 82> Lisp, Java, or OS/2, murphy? 82> What does that have to do with Lisp, Java, or OS/2, murphy? 82> What does your peculiar fetish for alphanumeric mumbo-jumbo have to do 82> with Lisp, Java, or OS/2, murphy? 82> Who is "paul", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias. 82> What does your foul language have to do with Lisp, Java, or OS/2, murphy? 82> What does that have to do with Lisp,Java, or OS/2, murphy? 82> What does your unsubstantiated claim regarding Deeyana have to do with 82> Lisp, Java, or OS/2, murphy? 82> What does your unsubstantiated allegation regarding Deeyana have to do 82> with Lisp, Java, or OS/2, murphy? 82> What does your ambiguous question of persons unspecified have to do with 82> Lisp, Java, or OS/2, murphy? 82> What does your directive to persons unspecified have to do with Lisp, 82> Java, or OS/2, murphy? 82> What does your unsubstantiated claim regarding ClassCastException have 82> to do with Lisp, Java, or OS/2, murphy? 82> What does your unsubstantiated claim have to do with Lisp, Java, or 82> OS/2, murphy? 82> Who is "paul", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias. 82> What does your threat towards Deeyana have to do with Lisp, Java, or 82> OS/2, murphy? 82> What does your ambiguous question of Deeyana have to do with Lisp, Java, 82> or OS/2, murphy? 82> What does your ironic claim have to do with Lisp, Java, or OS/2, murphy? 82> That's a peculiar attitude for you to take, murphy, given that you've 82> used Eternal-September extensively yourself. 82> What does your vague threat towards Deeyana have to do with Lisp, Java, 82> or OS/2, murphy? 82> And people wonder why I call them Famous Last Words. Rather ironic that you should suddenly show any interest in relevance to the newsgroup, "thoolen".
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| From | thoolen <tholen01@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-09-26 15:29 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Ten years ago today, bin Laden destroyed America. All mourn.(was Re: [update]) |
| Message-ID | <3336e75f-9f30-4dff-a2eb-f8b97b54d11e@u6g2000vbo.googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #1065 |
On Sep 19, 6:40 pm, "tholen@antispam.ham" <tholen@ifa.hawaii.edu> wrote: /!\> Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,comp.lang.java.help,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.lisp,comp.os.os2.advocacy /!\> Who is "tholenbot", "thoolen"? There is nobody in this newsgroup /!\> using that alias. What does your question have to do with politics, Java, Lisp, or OS/2, thingamajig? /!\> Who is "technetium", "thoolen"? There is nobody in this newsgroup /!\> using that alias. What does your question have to do with politics, Java, Lisp, or OS/2, termite? /!\> Who is "tholian", "thoolen"? There is nobody in this newsgroup /!\> using that alias. What does your question have to do with politics, Java, Lisp, or OS/2, twit? /!\> Having trouble keeping up, "thoolen"? Not at all, tholenbot, but thanks anyway for your concern. /!\> Who is "thalidomide", "thoolen"? There is nobody in this newsgroup /!\> using that alias. What does your question have to do with politics, Java, Lisp, or OS/2, thingy? /!\> How ironic. What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with politics, Java, Lisp, or OS/2, thalidomide? /!\> How ironic. What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with politics, Java, Lisp, or OS/2, thrush? /!\> Rather ironic that you should suddenly show any interest in /!\> relevance to the newsgroup, "thoolen". What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with politics, Java, Lisp, or OS/2, twinkie? /!\> Rather ironic that you should suddenly show any interest in /!\> relevance to the newsgroup, "thoolen". What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with politics, Java, Lisp, or OS/2, thloser? /!\> Rather ironic that you should suddenly show any interest in /!\> relevance to the newsgroup, "thoolen". What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with politics, Java, Lisp, or OS/2, tholian? /!\> Rather ironic that you should suddenly show any interest in /!\> relevance to the newsgroup, "thoolen". What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with politics, Java, Lisp, or OS/2, trollen? /!\> Rather ironic that you should suddenly show any interest in /!\> relevance to the newsgroup, "thoolen". What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with politics, Java, Lisp, or OS/2, tholoon?
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| From | * US * |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-09-27 07:27 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Ten years ago Bush and Cheney Betrayed the USA |
| Message-ID | <jjc387pkt9saduiej1rl5nkf173rli6b1k@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #1065 |
http://anthonysummersandrobbynswan.wordpress.com/2011/09/05/bush-cheney-911-questions-still-unanswered/
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| From | "tholen@antispam.ham" <tholen@ifa.hawaii.edu> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-09-27 06:23 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Ten years ago Bush and Cheney Betrayed the USA |
| Message-ID | <0540bd09-77df-4aca-aa69-d38232e852ee@k34g2000yqm.googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #1139 |
* US * writes: 231> Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,comp.lang.java.help,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.lisp,comp.os.os2.advocacy 231> Message-ID: <jjc387pkt9saduiej1rl5nkf173rli6b1k@4ax.com> What does your URL have to do with OS/2, "* US *"?
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