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Re: Compiler

From Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.lang.java.help
Subject Re: Compiler
Date 2012-06-07 10:06 -0700
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On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 16:53:20 +0100, dystokia@stokeontrent.plus.com
wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :

>It appears that you have to be an semi-expert on Java before starting.
> 
 Happily, unlike most other languages, things are reasonably
consistent. It suddenly makes sense and you wonder ever after what the
fuss was about. I wrote the Java glossary for people like you to help
you get started. I explain things in simplified form in informal
language, aiming at giving you the big picture before try to hang all
the myriad details on the framework.

See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html

You might want to check out http://mindprod.com/jgloss/gotchas.html
which warns you of the things that are not as you might expect them.

Give yourself some simple projects (see
http://mindprod.com/project/projects.html for ideas). Then learn just
as much Java as you need for the task at hand. That will keep you
motivated. You don't want to overwhelm yourself trying to understand
everything at once.

I too came from C. It would have been much easier had I known no C at
all.  Java LOOKs superficially like C, but it works in a completely
different way under the hood, especially arrays and structs.
 
You have probably encountered people who consider it a criminal
offense to have failed to memorise the JLS  (see
http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jls.html)

They are just expressing their frustration not being able to explain
something to you as tersely as they could their clone.

I suggest http://mindprod.com/jgloss/classpath.html
as an important essay to muster. Classpath is the simplest thing in
the world, but explaining it ties everyone in knots.
-- 
Roedy Green Canadian Mind Products
http://mindprod.com
Controlling complexity is the essence of computer programming.
~ Brian W. Kernighan 1942-01-01
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Compiler dystokia@stokeontrent.plus.com - 2012-06-04 13:40 +0100
  Re: Compiler markspace <-@.> - 2012-06-04 06:23 -0700
  Re: Compiler Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-06-04 07:47 -0700
    Re: Compiler dystokia@stokeontrent.plus.com - 2012-06-05 20:06 +0100
      Re: Compiler Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-06-05 17:33 -0700
        Re: Compiler Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-06-05 18:29 -0700
          Re: Compiler Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-06-07 09:46 -0700
      Re: Compiler Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-06-05 17:43 -0700
        Re: Compiler dystokia@stokeontrent.plus.com - 2012-06-06 16:53 +0100
          Re: Compiler Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2012-06-06 09:56 -0700
          Re: Compiler markspace <-@.> - 2012-06-06 12:27 -0700
          Re: Compiler Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-06-07 10:06 -0700
        Re: Compiler "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet2@hjp.at> - 2012-06-07 09:19 +0200
        Re: Compiler Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-06-07 09:48 -0700
          Re: Compiler Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-06-07 15:09 -0700
            Re: Compiler Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-06-07 17:20 -0700
            Re: Compiler Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-06-07 19:01 -0700
        Re: Compiler Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-06-07 09:55 -0700
          Re: Compiler Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-06-07 15:06 -0700
            Re: Compiler Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-06-07 17:26 -0700
              Re: Compiler markspace <-@.> - 2012-06-07 17:55 -0700
                Re: Compiler Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-06-08 08:05 -0700
                Re: Compiler Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-06-08 12:27 -0700
                Re: Compiler Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-06-08 21:01 -0700
                Re: Compiler Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-06-09 21:30 -0700
  Re: Compiler Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-06-04 10:49 -0700

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