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Roedy Green wrote:
> markspace wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :
>> "Is" to me doesn't meant "uses." 
> 
> An alternate definition would based around the idea "what is included
> with Java?"  What can you guarantee is present?

The language itself, the java.* packages and the javax.* packages.

> On the other paw, strictly speaking none of the libraries are part of
> the Java language except things like String and Thread.

And all the java.* and javax.* packages.

Including things you left out like java.lang.Object, java.lang.Enum, java.io.Serializable, java.io.Externalizable, java.lang.Iterable, java.io.Closeable, ...

> There are all kinds of packages you can download free from Oracle that
> plug in to Java.   Oracle would consider them part of their Java
> offering or Java budget.

Have you checked that with Oracle? I notice that you you stop short of 
the claim that Oracle would consider them part of Java itself.

> By alternate definitions is JavaMail, JMF, Derby, Javafx ... part of
> Java? It is the sort of thing only Oracle could definitively rule on
> and would not change the practicalities.

No, they aren't.

Are they included in the JavaSE compatibility test suite?

<http://openjdk.java.net/groups/conformance/docs/JCK6bUsersGuide/html/p7.html>

Nope. Q.E.D.

-- 
Lew

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Compiler dystokia@stokeontrent.plus.com - 2012-06-04 13:40 +0100
  Re: Compiler markspace <-@.> - 2012-06-04 06:23 -0700
  Re: Compiler Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-06-04 07:47 -0700
    Re: Compiler dystokia@stokeontrent.plus.com - 2012-06-05 20:06 +0100
      Re: Compiler Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-06-05 17:33 -0700
        Re: Compiler Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-06-05 18:29 -0700
          Re: Compiler Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-06-07 09:46 -0700
      Re: Compiler Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-06-05 17:43 -0700
        Re: Compiler dystokia@stokeontrent.plus.com - 2012-06-06 16:53 +0100
          Re: Compiler Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2012-06-06 09:56 -0700
          Re: Compiler markspace <-@.> - 2012-06-06 12:27 -0700
          Re: Compiler Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-06-07 10:06 -0700
        Re: Compiler "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet2@hjp.at> - 2012-06-07 09:19 +0200
        Re: Compiler Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-06-07 09:48 -0700
          Re: Compiler Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-06-07 15:09 -0700
            Re: Compiler Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-06-07 17:20 -0700
            Re: Compiler Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-06-07 19:01 -0700
        Re: Compiler Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-06-07 09:55 -0700
          Re: Compiler Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-06-07 15:06 -0700
            Re: Compiler Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-06-07 17:26 -0700
              Re: Compiler markspace <-@.> - 2012-06-07 17:55 -0700
                Re: Compiler Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-06-08 08:05 -0700
                Re: Compiler Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-06-08 12:27 -0700
                Re: Compiler Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-06-08 21:01 -0700
                Re: Compiler Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-06-09 21:30 -0700
  Re: Compiler Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-06-04 10:49 -0700

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