Re: Compiler

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Subject	Re: Compiler
Date	2012-06-07 17:55 -0700
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On 6/7/2012 5:26 PM, Roedy Green wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Jun 2012 15:06:46 -0700 (PDT), Lew<lewbloch@gmail.com>
> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :
>
>> That fact is that JavaFX is not Java.
>
> Does it use the JVM under the covers? Is it just Java with a new
> graphics library?

Lots of things use the JVM "under the covers."  Scala, Jython, etc. 
Does that make them Java?

JavaFX started out as a scripting language, intended to compete with 
Flash and Silverlight.  That turned out to be a dumb idea;  HTML 5 is 
going to obviate both, so jumping in right as the market becomes 
obsolete wasn't ever going to work.

>
> http://docs.oracle.com/javafx/2/architecture/jfxpub-architecture.htm

This says that JavaFX will become an API (library) for Java.  Libraries 
aren't "Java," though they may be written in Java.  They're a part of 
the whole, not the whole itself.  So far though I don't think that the 
JavaFX API has been incorporated into rt.jar.  It's still physically 
separate in a javafx.jar file.

"Is" to me doesn't meant "uses."  Tomcat uses Java, Tomcat isn't Java. 
Mockito uses Java, Mockito isn't Java.  Java to me is the runtime API, 
plus the JVM, plus whatever other system components are used to install 
the Java platform.  Things like file associations in Windows to make Jar 
files double-clickable.  The rest of that stuff is built on top of the 
Java platform, but it is not Java.

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Compiler dystokia@stokeontrent.plus.com - 2012-06-04 13:40 +0100
  Re: Compiler markspace <-@.> - 2012-06-04 06:23 -0700
  Re: Compiler Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-06-04 07:47 -0700
    Re: Compiler dystokia@stokeontrent.plus.com - 2012-06-05 20:06 +0100
      Re: Compiler Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-06-05 17:33 -0700
        Re: Compiler Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-06-05 18:29 -0700
          Re: Compiler Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-06-07 09:46 -0700
      Re: Compiler Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-06-05 17:43 -0700
        Re: Compiler dystokia@stokeontrent.plus.com - 2012-06-06 16:53 +0100
          Re: Compiler Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2012-06-06 09:56 -0700
          Re: Compiler markspace <-@.> - 2012-06-06 12:27 -0700
          Re: Compiler Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-06-07 10:06 -0700
        Re: Compiler "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet2@hjp.at> - 2012-06-07 09:19 +0200
        Re: Compiler Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-06-07 09:48 -0700
          Re: Compiler Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-06-07 15:09 -0700
            Re: Compiler Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-06-07 17:20 -0700
            Re: Compiler Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-06-07 19:01 -0700
        Re: Compiler Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-06-07 09:55 -0700
          Re: Compiler Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-06-07 15:06 -0700
            Re: Compiler Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-06-07 17:26 -0700
              Re: Compiler markspace <-@.> - 2012-06-07 17:55 -0700
                Re: Compiler Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-06-08 08:05 -0700
                Re: Compiler Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-06-08 12:27 -0700
                Re: Compiler Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-06-08 21:01 -0700
                Re: Compiler Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-06-09 21:30 -0700
  Re: Compiler Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-06-04 10:49 -0700

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