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Re: java still worthwhile?

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On 2/26/2019 6:02 PM, Martin Gregorie wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Feb 2019 17:25:18 -0500, dale wrote:
> 
>> Is java still worth my effort? Just a pastime and something resulting to
>> note in my resume. I know the fundamentals of object oriented
>> architecture, design and programming. Don't quite like using Netbeans
>> IDE, or any other IDE, but could get used to it ...
> 
> I like Java as a general purpose programming language and agree with your
> dislike of most IDEs. I don't use 'em.
> 
> I use a text-only, multi-buffering editor whose capacity to edit multiple
> files as once is only limited by system memory, so thats one argument for
> using an IDE solved. Most of the rest can be solved by understanding ant
> and using it as a command-line tool in exactly the same way as you'd use
> 'make' when building a multi-source-module C program.
> 
> This makes Java development from the command line easy. For ewxample,
> with a well-structured build.xml file, using a command like
> 
> ant clean all docs
> 
> to do a from-scratch Java compile and generate program documentation with
> javadocs becomes straight forward and fast too. I reckon this covers the
> other main benefit claimed for using an IDE.
> 
> This leaves only refactoring, which I have no real workround for apart
> from careful design of classes and the way they interact.
> 
> 

Thank You !!! Know little about XML and only heard about ant a couple 
times. I would want a debugger that gives me row and column numbers. I 
don't know anything about refactoring. I would spend the time on a 
use-case diagram and class/SDK/etc. diagram; might not be all as easy as 
I think. Getting into the dirt of programming is going to require a 
reference to rely on. Microsoft's PowerShell ISE seems to be something 
closer to what I could do now that I think of it.

-- 
dale - https://www.dalekelly.org/

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java still worthwhile? dale <dale@dalekelly.org> - 2019-02-26 17:25 -0500
  Re: java still worthwhile? dale <dale@dalekelly.org> - 2019-02-26 18:37 -0500
  Re: java still worthwhile? Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2019-02-27 07:28 -0500
    Re: java still worthwhile? dale <dale@dalekelly.org> - 2019-02-27 09:32 -0500
  Re: java still worthwhile? Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2019-03-01 11:10 +0100
    Re: java still worthwhile? dale <dale@dalekelly.org> - 2019-03-01 10:11 -0500
      Re: java still worthwhile? Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2019-03-05 09:40 +0100
        Re: java still worthwhile? dale <dale@dalekelly.org> - 2019-03-05 09:33 -0500
          Re: java still worthwhile? John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2019-03-05 13:56 -0800

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