Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!news.alt.net From: dale Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.java.help,sci.image.processing,sci.engr.color,rec.photo.digital,rec.photo.darkroom Subject: Re: java still worthwhile? Followup-To: comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.java.help,sci.image.processing,sci.engr.color,rec.photo.digital,rec.photo.darkroom Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2019 18:37:51 -0500 Lines: 41 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.5.1 In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.java.programmer:38734 comp.lang.java.help:4242 sci.image.processing:4428 sci.engr.color:1170 rec.photo.digital:224919 rec.photo.darkroom:1868 On 2/26/2019 6:02 PM, Martin Gregorie wrote: > On Tue, 26 Feb 2019 17:25:18 -0500, dale wrote: > >> Is java still worth my effort? Just a pastime and something resulting to >> note in my resume. I know the fundamentals of object oriented >> architecture, design and programming. Don't quite like using Netbeans >> IDE, or any other IDE, but could get used to it ... > > I like Java as a general purpose programming language and agree with your > dislike of most IDEs. I don't use 'em. > > I use a text-only, multi-buffering editor whose capacity to edit multiple > files as once is only limited by system memory, so thats one argument for > using an IDE solved. Most of the rest can be solved by understanding ant > and using it as a command-line tool in exactly the same way as you'd use > 'make' when building a multi-source-module C program. > > This makes Java development from the command line easy. For ewxample, > with a well-structured build.xml file, using a command like > > ant clean all docs > > to do a from-scratch Java compile and generate program documentation with > javadocs becomes straight forward and fast too. I reckon this covers the > other main benefit claimed for using an IDE. > > This leaves only refactoring, which I have no real workround for apart > from careful design of classes and the way they interact. > > Thank You !!! Know little about XML and only heard about ant a couple times. I would want a debugger that gives me row and column numbers. I don't know anything about refactoring. I would spend the time on a use-case diagram and class/SDK/etc. diagram; might not be all as easy as I think. Getting into the dirt of programming is going to require a reference to rely on. Microsoft's PowerShell ISE seems to be something closer to what I could do now that I think of it. -- dale - https://www.dalekelly.org/