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any misc chip desktop pc yet?

Started bythe_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com>
First post2012-12-17 02:26 -0800
Last post2012-12-23 22:46 -0800
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  any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-17 02:26 -0800
    Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Brad Eckert <hwfwguy@gmail.com> - 2012-12-17 08:37 -0800
      Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-19 13:27 -0800
        Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2012-12-19 21:27 -1000
    Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Spam@ControlQ.com - 2012-12-17 12:20 -0500
      Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-19 13:27 -0800
    Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Frank Thomason <Frank@Thomason.com> - 2012-12-17 13:34 -0500
      Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-19 13:28 -0800
        Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Frank Thomason <Frank@Thomason.com> - 2012-12-20 08:54 -0500
          Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-20 20:03 -0800
    Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-17 18:52 -0500
      Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-19 13:26 -0800
    Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2012-12-17 18:00 -0800
      Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-19 13:16 -0800
        Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2012-12-19 21:43 -0800
          Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-19 23:50 -0800
            Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2012-12-20 02:05 -0800
    Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Mark Wills <forthfreak@gmail.com> - 2012-12-18 05:12 -0800
      Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Brad Eckert <hwfwguy@gmail.com> - 2012-12-18 10:24 -0800
      Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2012-12-18 19:53 +0000
        Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-18 15:46 -0500
          Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-12-18 22:41 +0100
            Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-19 13:20 -0800
          Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Mark Wills <forthfreak@gmail.com> - 2012-12-18 23:31 -0800
          Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2012-12-18 23:57 -0800
            Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Mark Wills <forthfreak@gmail.com> - 2012-12-19 02:45 -0800
              Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2012-12-19 20:41 +0100
                Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-19 13:23 -0800
              Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-12-19 21:01 +0100
                Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-19 13:24 -0800
              Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-19 13:22 -0800
              Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2012-12-19 18:27 -0800
                Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-19 23:48 -0800
                  Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2012-12-20 01:43 -0800
                    Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-20 17:51 -0500
                    Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-20 20:07 -0800
                Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-12-20 14:51 +0100
                  Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-20 20:16 -0800
                  Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2012-12-23 21:50 -0800
                    Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-12-24 15:51 +0100
                      Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2012-12-24 16:24 -0800
                        Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2012-12-25 03:26 +0000
                          Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2012-12-26 17:30 -0800
                        Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? "A. K." <akk@nospam.org> - 2012-12-25 09:49 +0100
                          Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2012-12-26 17:44 -0800
            Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-19 13:22 -0800
          Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-19 13:18 -0800
          Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Roberto Waltman <usenet@rwaltman.com> - 2012-12-23 11:57 -0500
            Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-23 14:29 -0500
        Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2012-12-18 23:24 -0800
        Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-19 13:18 -0800
      Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-19 13:17 -0800
        Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-19 16:26 -0500
          Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-19 13:29 -0800
            Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-19 17:11 -0500
              Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-19 23:45 -0800
                Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-20 17:59 -0500
                  Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-20 20:22 -0800
                    Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2012-12-21 12:59 -0800
                      Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-23 21:54 -0800
                        Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-24 00:59 -0500
                          Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-23 22:23 -0800
                            Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-24 01:48 -0500
                    Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-21 16:34 -0500
                      Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2012-12-21 13:55 -0800
                        Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-21 16:59 -0500
                          Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2012-12-21 15:39 -0800
                            Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-21 18:43 -0500
                              Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2012-12-21 15:50 -0800
                                Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-21 19:01 -0500
                        Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-23 22:05 -0800
                      Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-23 21:57 -0800
                        Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-24 01:00 -0500
                          Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-23 22:25 -0800
          Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Mark Wills <forthfreak@gmail.com> - 2012-12-19 23:44 -0800
            Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-19 23:46 -0800
            Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2012-12-20 13:04 +0100
            Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-20 18:18 -0500
          Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2012-12-20 14:40 +0000
            Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-12-20 19:42 +0100
              Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2012-12-21 13:01 -0800
                Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-21 16:36 -0500
                  Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2012-12-21 13:46 -0800
                    Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2012-12-23 20:02 -0800
                      Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2012-12-23 21:28 -0800
                        Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2012-12-23 21:58 -0800
                          Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-23 22:26 -0800
                          Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2012-12-24 14:46 +0000
                  Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-12-21 23:45 +0100
                    Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-21 18:42 -0500
                      Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-12-22 01:23 +0100
                        Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-23 14:23 -0500
                          Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-12-23 16:02 -0600
                          Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-12-24 00:51 +0100
                            Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-23 20:29 -0500
                          Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-23 23:01 -0800
            Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-20 18:23 -0500
              Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-23 23:05 -0800
                Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-25 09:40 -0500
                  Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-12-26 00:20 +0100
                    Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-26 23:07 -0500
                      Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-12-27 21:07 +0100
                    Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Mark Wills <forthfreak@gmail.com> - 2012-12-27 12:48 -0800
                      Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-27 16:42 -0500
            Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-20 20:24 -0800
              Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2012-12-21 13:24 -0800
                The huge Gavino off topic thread  was: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-21 16:57 -0500
                  Re: The huge Gavino off topic thread  was: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-23 23:13 -0800
                    Re: The huge Gavino off topic thread was: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Mark Wills <forthfreak@gmail.com> - 2012-12-24 00:43 -0800
                      Re: The huge Gavino off topic thread was: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-24 10:34 -0500
                        Re: The huge Gavino off topic thread was: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-24 14:28 -0800
                Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-23 22:37 -0800
                Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-23 22:51 -0800
          Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Brad Eckert <hwfwguy@gmail.com> - 2012-12-20 08:27 -0800
            Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2012-12-20 18:44 +0000
              Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-12-20 21:37 +0100
                Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-23 22:34 -0800
                  Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-24 01:47 -0500
                    Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-23 23:18 -0800
                      Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-12-24 15:53 +0100
                        Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-24 14:26 -0800
                          Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-12-25 00:09 +0100
                            Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Mark Wills <forthfreak@gmail.com> - 2012-12-24 15:29 -0800
                            Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-26 10:18 -0500
                              Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? "A. K." <akk@nospam.org> - 2012-12-27 00:35 +0100
                                Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-12-27 02:25 +0100
                                  Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? "A. K." <akk@nospam.org> - 2012-12-27 21:13 +0100
                                    Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-12-27 23:06 +0100
                                      Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? "A. K." <akk@nospam.org> - 2012-12-28 01:24 +0100
                                        Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-12-28 23:39 +0100
                                          Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? "A. K." <akk@nospam.org> - 2012-12-29 00:32 +0100
                                            Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-12-29 01:05 +0100
                                              Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? "A. K." <akk@nospam.org> - 2012-12-29 10:20 +0100
                                      Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-28 11:03 -0500
                                  Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-27 16:50 -0500
                                    Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-12-28 02:37 +0100
                                      Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? "A. K." <akk@nospam.org> - 2012-12-28 09:15 +0100
                                      Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-28 11:15 -0500
                                        Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-12-29 01:01 +0100
                                          Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-30 15:52 -0500
                                            Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-12-30 23:41 +0100
                                              Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-31 11:20 -0500
                                                Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? "A. K." <akk@nospam.org> - 2012-12-31 18:21 +0100
                                                  Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-31 15:41 -0500
                                                    Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? "A. K." <akk@nospam.org> - 2013-01-01 03:32 +0100
                                                Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2013-01-02 01:46 +0100
                                                  Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-01-03 22:36 -0500
                                                    Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Brad Eckert <hwfwguy@gmail.com> - 2013-01-08 08:25 -0800
                                                      Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-01-08 12:46 -0500
                                                        Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? gavino_himself <visploveslisp@gmail.com> - 2013-01-08 11:38 -0800
                                                          Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Brad Eckert <hwfwguy@gmail.com> - 2013-01-09 08:19 -0800
                                                            Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-01-09 17:52 -0500
                                                          Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? gavino_himself <visploveslisp@gmail.com> - 2013-01-09 19:45 -0800
                                                            Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-01-10 17:41 -0500
                                                              Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? gavino_himself <visploveslisp@gmail.com> - 2013-01-13 18:29 -0800
                                                                Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-01-14 09:29 -0500
                                                                  Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? gavino_himself <visploveslisp@gmail.com> - 2013-01-14 14:42 -0800
                                                                    Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-01-14 18:25 -0500
                                                                      Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? gavino_himself <visploveslisp@gmail.com> - 2013-01-22 14:55 -0800
                                                                        Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2013-01-22 17:43 -0800
                                            Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? "A. K." <akk@nospam.org> - 2012-12-31 01:38 +0100
                                              Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-12-31 02:54 +0100
                          Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2013-01-05 03:17 +0100
                            Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-01-08 21:23 -0500
                              Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2013-01-10 03:44 +0100
                                Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-01-10 18:03 -0500
                                  Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2013-01-11 02:52 +0100
                                    Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-01-13 17:11 -0500
                                      Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? gavino_himself <visploveslisp@gmail.com> - 2013-01-13 18:30 -0800
                                        Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2013-01-13 22:54 -0800
                                          Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-01-14 09:30 -0500
                                          Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? gavino_himself <visploveslisp@gmail.com> - 2013-01-14 14:42 -0800
                                            Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2013-01-14 15:58 -0800
                                              Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2013-01-15 02:02 +0100
                                              Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? gavino_himself <visploveslisp@gmail.com> - 2013-01-22 15:00 -0800
                                                Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2013-01-22 16:57 -0800
                                                Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2013-01-22 17:21 -0800
                                                Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-01-24 17:37 -0500
                                            Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2013-01-14 16:13 -0800
                                      Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2013-01-14 11:10 +0000
                                        Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-01-14 09:50 -0500
                                          Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-01-14 09:55 -0500
                                          Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2013-01-14 09:12 -0600
                                            Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2013-01-14 22:09 +0100
                                            Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-01-14 16:17 -0500
                                      Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2013-01-14 21:20 +0100
                                        Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-01-14 16:26 -0500
                                          Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2013-01-15 02:31 +0100
                                            Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-01-15 00:15 -0500
                                              Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2013-01-17 02:04 +0100
                                                Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? gavino_himself <visploveslisp@gmail.com> - 2013-01-22 14:57 -0800
            Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-23 23:15 -0800
        Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2012-12-20 17:33 -0800
          Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-21 17:09 -0500
          Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-23 22:46 -0800

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#18045 — any misc chip desktop pc yet?

Fromthe_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com>
Date2012-12-17 02:26 -0800
Subjectany misc chip desktop pc yet?
Message-ID<75363bd0-36c7-4717-9ff3-23d2ff50688b@googlegroups.com>
cmon forth!!!

I cant even figure out howto get anything done in forth

Iam more productive in shell or tcl

what should I do?

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#18046

FromBrad Eckert <hwfwguy@gmail.com>
Date2012-12-17 08:37 -0800
Message-ID<0922f930-ed19-42aa-aaf4-0dbe7fcc3966@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#18045
On Monday, December 17, 2012 3:26:50 AM UTC-7, the_gavino_himself wrote:
> I can't even figure out how to get anything done in forth
> what should I do?

RTFM?

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#18099

Fromthe_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com>
Date2012-12-19 13:27 -0800
Message-ID<ceb78ff6-b35c-4b1a-be7b-433f21fbc49c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#18046
On Monday, December 17, 2012 11:37:35 AM UTC-5, Brad Eckert wrote:
> On Monday, December 17, 2012 3:26:50 AM UTC-7, the_gavino_himself wrote:
> 
> > I can't even figure out how to get anything done in forth
> 
> > what should I do?
> 
> 
> 
> RTFM?

lol
best post here

So once you read the manual you can get the results you want from the computers you use?  What apps did you create? What do they do?

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#18113

From"Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com>
Date2012-12-19 21:27 -1000
Message-ID<XpSdne-8Q5ltIE_NnZ2dnUVZ_judnZ2d@supernews.com>
In reply to#18099
On 12/19/12 11:27 AM, the_gavino_himself wrote:
> On Monday, December 17, 2012 11:37:35 AM UTC-5, Brad Eckert wrote:
>> On Monday, December 17, 2012 3:26:50 AM UTC-7, the_gavino_himself wrote:
>>
>>> I can't even figure out how to get anything done in forth
>>
>>> what should I do?
>>
>>
>>
>> RTFM?
>
> lol
> best post here
>
> So once you read the manual you can get the results you want from the computers you use?  What apps did you create? What do they do?
>

Reading the manual is a start. Practice (e.g. with the problems in the 
various books available, and comparing your solutions with published 
ones *after* you've done the best job you can) is a reasonable next 
step. Then writing an application should follow.

Cheers,
Elizabeth

-- 
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5959 West Century Blvd. Suite 700
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#18048

FromSpam@ControlQ.com
Date2012-12-17 12:20 -0500
Message-ID<alpine.BSF.2.00.1212171220191.17692@yoko.controlq.com>
In reply to#18045
On Mon, 17 Dec 2012, the_gavino_himself wrote:

> Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 02:26:50 -0800 (PST)
> From: the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com>
> Newsgroups: comp.lang.forth
> Subject: any misc chip desktop pc yet?
> 
> cmon forth!!!
>
> I cant even figure out howto get anything done in forth
>
> Iam more productive in shell or tcl
>
> what should I do?
>

Learn awk, and don't lurk here anymore.

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#18100

Fromthe_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com>
Date2012-12-19 13:27 -0800
Message-ID<b03de965-f5dd-4c11-957c-ab055f1e19d7@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#18048
On Monday, December 17, 2012 12:20:46 PM UTC-5, Sp...@ControlQ.com wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Dec 2012, the_gavino_himself wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 02:26:50 -0800 (PST)
> 
> > From: the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com>
> 
> > Newsgroups: comp.lang.forth
> 
> > Subject: any misc chip desktop pc yet?
> 
> > 
> 
> > cmon forth!!!
> 
> >
> 
> > I cant even figure out howto get anything done in forth
> 
> >
> 
> > Iam more productive in shell or tcl
> 
> >
> 
> > what should I do?
> 
> >
> 
> 
> 
> Learn awk, and don't lurk here anymore.

meanie

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#18049

FromFrank Thomason <Frank@Thomason.com>
Date2012-12-17 13:34 -0500
Message-ID<50CF65C7.90702@Thomason.com>
In reply to#18045
On 12/17/2012 5:26 AM, the_gavino_himself wrote:
> cmon forth!!!
>
> I cant even figure out howto get anything done in forth
>
> Iam more productive in shell or tcl
>
> what should I do?

Stick to shell and tcl?

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#18101

Fromthe_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com>
Date2012-12-19 13:28 -0800
Message-ID<17ef384f-3c1e-49bf-b2e3-a68637a019a2@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#18049
On Monday, December 17, 2012 1:34:47 PM UTC-5, Frank Thomason wrote:
> On 12/17/2012 5:26 AM, the_gavino_himself wrote:
> 
> > cmon forth!!!
> 
> >
> 
> > I cant even figure out howto get anything done in forth
> 
> >
> 
> > Iam more productive in shell or tcl
> 
> >
> 
> > what should I do?
> 
> 
> 
> Stick to shell and tcl?

I mostly do.
I do dream of getting better results with forth though...

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#18131

FromFrank Thomason <Frank@Thomason.com>
Date2012-12-20 08:54 -0500
Message-ID<50D3187C.5050400@Thomason.com>
In reply to#18101
On 12/19/2012 4:28 PM, the_gavino_himself wrote:
> On Monday, December 17, 2012 1:34:47 PM UTC-5, Frank Thomason wrote:
>> On 12/17/2012 5:26 AM, the_gavino_himself wrote:
>>
>>> cmon forth!!!
>>
>>>
>>
>>> I cant even figure out howto get anything done in forth
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Iam more productive in shell or tcl
>>
>>>
>>
>>> what should I do?
>>
>>
>>
>> Stick to shell and tcl?
>
> I mostly do.
> I do dream of getting better results with forth though...
>

Well, here's a holiday wish that your dreams will come true ...

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#18146

Fromthe_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com>
Date2012-12-20 20:03 -0800
Message-ID<4169e051-0982-4e9e-bde4-9ffc0df50de2@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#18131
On Thursday, December 20, 2012 8:54:04 AM UTC-5, Frank Thomason wrote:
> On 12/19/2012 4:28 PM, the_gavino_himself wrote:
> 
> > On Monday, December 17, 2012 1:34:47 PM UTC-5, Frank Thomason wrote:
> 
> >> On 12/17/2012 5:26 AM, the_gavino_himself wrote:
> 
> >>
> 
> >>> cmon forth!!!
> 
> >>
> 
> >>>
> 
> >>
> 
> >>> I cant even figure out howto get anything done in forth
> 
> >>
> 
> >>>
> 
> >>
> 
> >>> Iam more productive in shell or tcl
> 
> >>
> 
> >>>
> 
> >>
> 
> >>> what should I do?
> 
> >>
> 
> >>
> 
> >>
> 
> >> Stick to shell and tcl?
> 
> >
> 
> > I mostly do.
> 
> > I do dream of getting better results with forth though...
> 
> >
> 
> 
> 
> Well, here's a holiday wish that your dreams will come true ...

thanks man :)

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#18056

Fromrickman <gnuarm@gmail.com>
Date2012-12-17 18:52 -0500
Message-ID<kaob7g$hbv$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#18045
On 12/17/2012 5:26 AM, the_gavino_himself wrote:
> cmon forth!!!
>
> I cant even figure out howto get anything done in forth
>
> Iam more productive in shell or tcl
>
> what should I do?

Have you considered taking up kayaking?  It won't help you program, but 
it helps you not think about it anymore.

Rick

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#18097

Fromthe_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com>
Date2012-12-19 13:26 -0800
Message-ID<9d2ce04d-a323-48c6-aba6-a942bea21689@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#18056
On Monday, December 17, 2012 6:52:15 PM UTC-5, rickman wrote:
> On 12/17/2012 5:26 AM, the_gavino_himself wrote:
> 
> > cmon forth!!!
> 
> >
> 
> > I cant even figure out howto get anything done in forth
> 
> >
> 
> > Iam more productive in shell or tcl
> 
> >
> 
> > what should I do?
> 
> 
> 
> Have you considered taking up kayaking?  It won't help you program, but 
> 
> it helps you not think about it anymore.
> 
> 
> 
> Rick

I have not.  hope this helps

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#18059

FromJason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com>
Date2012-12-17 18:00 -0800
Message-ID<aa43e20f-8f3c-407a-a3a6-e332013c55f9@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#18045
If you are extremely determined, then you might find a way to study underneath somebody else who has years of successful Forth experience.  Maybe find one of the old imbedded systems guys to work under for a few years.  Pay a Forther to have them tutor you.  Or, you could pay Forth Inc for the privilege of taking their courses. 

Or going it alone...

> I cant even figure out how to get anything done in forth

I've never had any problem like that.  I went from Atari Basic and 6502 Assembly straight to Forth and never had a problem transitioning.  But then again I was always trying to think for myself from first principles even if that is sometimes slow and painful.

I have a theory about this.  Some people are just better at coming up with new ideas and at being independent in their approach to solving problems, while other people are naturally inclined to follow in the footsteps of others.  Both sides have their advantages and disadvantages.  If you are the kind of person who tends to follow others, and to implement what has already been done and to do things the way others have done them before, then you may have a difficult time with Forth, as there are not the same amount of libraries and the same amount of sample codes as there are in a more popular language such as C.  

All I can suggest is this, if you look at the problem in a bottom up approach, solving one tiny part of it at a time, rather than looking at the problem as a monolithic whole, then you may get somewhere.  For some people, this will be such a large change in thinking and be such a large leap of faith that they will find it impossible to conceive of as a reasonable thing to attempt.  But, for those who can make the switch, you will find that Forth indeed is a mental lever of near infinite length. 

"Give me a place to stand, and I shall move the Earth with it"

 Archimedes. 

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#18088

Fromthe_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com>
Date2012-12-19 13:16 -0800
Message-ID<50a58e18-1140-44ad-b5dd-52d36cd1baa8@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#18059
On Monday, December 17, 2012 9:00:32 PM UTC-5, Jason Damisch wrote:
> If you are extremely determined, then you might find a way to study underneath somebody else who has years of successful Forth experience.  Maybe find one of the old imbedded systems guys to work under for a few years.  Pay a Forther to have them tutor you.  Or, you could pay Forth Inc for the privilege of taking their courses. 
> 
> 
> 
> Or going it alone...
> 
> 
> 
> > I cant even figure out how to get anything done in forth
> 
> 
> 
> I've never had any problem like that.  I went from Atari Basic and 6502 Assembly straight to Forth and never had a problem transitioning.  But then again I was always trying to think for myself from first principles even if that is sometimes slow and painful.
> 
> 
> 
> I have a theory about this.  Some people are just better at coming up with new ideas and at being independent in their approach to solving problems, while other people are naturally inclined to follow in the footsteps of others.  Both sides have their advantages and disadvantages.  If you are the kind of person who tends to follow others, and to implement what has already been done and to do things the way others have done them before, then you may have a difficult time with Forth, as there are not the same amount of libraries and the same amount of sample codes as there are in a more popular language such as C.  
> 
> 
> 
> All I can suggest is this, if you look at the problem in a bottom up approach, solving one tiny part of it at a time, rather than looking at the problem as a monolithic whole, then you may get somewhere.  For some people, this will be such a large change in thinking and be such a large leap of faith that they will find it impossible to conceive of as a reasonable thing to attempt.  But, for those who can make the switch, you will find that Forth indeed is a mental lever of near infinite length. 
> 
> 
> 
> "Give me a place to stand, and I shall move the Earth with it"
> 
> 
> 
>  Archimedes.

In the end what kinds of apps did you produce?  What did the forth apps do?

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#18111

FromHugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com>
Date2012-12-19 21:43 -0800
Message-ID<93291eb2-eebf-4710-8551-d6026cbb63b2@d2g2000pbd.googlegroups.com>
In reply to#18088
On Dec 19, 2:16 pm, the_gavino_himself <visphatesj...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Monday, December 17, 2012 9:00:32 PM UTC-5, Jason Damisch wrote:
> > > I cant even figure out how to get anything done in forth
>
> > I've never had any problem like that.  I went from Atari Basic and 6502 Assembly straight to Forth and never had a problem transitioning.  But then again I was always trying to think for myself from first principles even if that is sometimes slow and painful.
>
> > I have a theory about this.  Some people are just better at coming up with new ideas and at being independent in their approach to solving problems, while other people are naturally inclined to follow in the footsteps of others.
>
> In the end what kinds of apps did you produce?  What did the forth apps do?

I have to agree with Gavino on this --- comp.lang.forth seems to be
rather heavy on ego and light on accomplishment.

I'm learning Scheme, and struggling with it in much the same way as
Gavino is struggling with Forth. Most of my problem is just lack of
motivation. There is really very little chance of making money at any
of this. I'm mostly just learning Scheme to better myself (I tried to
learn Spanish too, also with the motivation of bettering myself, and
failed at that too). I've made money as a Forth programmer though,
plus I'm so familiar with Forth that writing programs is easy for me,
so I have a lot of inertia programming in Forth and I continue to use
it although I know it isn't a very good language compared to all of
the others available --- I still think it has potential in the micro-
controller world --- but the Forth community has been talking about
"potential" as far back as I can remember (1983), which is too long.

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#18119

Fromthe_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com>
Date2012-12-19 23:50 -0800
Message-ID<a3b630cb-6661-4522-9d0c-5709adb66e76@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#18111
On Thursday, December 20, 2012 12:43:25 AM UTC-5, Hugh Aguilar wrote:
> On Dec 19, 2:16 pm, the_gavino_himself <visphatesj...@gmail.com>
> 
> wrote:
> 
> > On Monday, December 17, 2012 9:00:32 PM UTC-5, Jason Damisch wrote:
> 
> > > > I cant even figure out how to get anything done in forth
> 
> >
> 
> > > I've never had any problem like that.  I went from Atari Basic and 6502 Assembly straight to Forth and never had a problem transitioning.  But then again I was always trying to think for myself from first principles even if that is sometimes slow and painful.
> 
> >
> 
> > > I have a theory about this.  Some people are just better at coming up with new ideas and at being independent in their approach to solving problems, while other people are naturally inclined to follow in the footsteps of others.
> 
> >
> 
> > In the end what kinds of apps did you produce?  What did the forth apps do?
> 
> 
> 
> I have to agree with Gavino on this --- comp.lang.forth seems to be
> 
> rather heavy on ego and light on accomplishment.
> 
> 
> 
> I'm learning Scheme, and struggling with it in much the same way as
> 
> Gavino is struggling with Forth. Most of my problem is just lack of
> 
> motivation. There is really very little chance of making money at any
> 
> of this. I'm mostly just learning Scheme to better myself (I tried to
> 
> learn Spanish too, also with the motivation of bettering myself, and
> 
> failed at that too). I've made money as a Forth programmer though,
> 
> plus I'm so familiar with Forth that writing programs is easy for me,
> 
> so I have a lot of inertia programming in Forth and I continue to use
> 
> it although I know it isn't a very good language compared to all of
> 
> the others available --- I still think it has potential in the micro-
> 
> controller world --- but the Forth community has been talking about
> 
> "potential" as far back as I can remember (1983), which is too long.

Have you seen sunet and scsh? racket webserver? and awful by chicken scheme folks?  Scheme seems awesome.  blgo your progress?


Is there a forth apps blog like cpan plus a forum kinda thing to talk about forth apps aside from usenet or is usenet the main thing?
I find forums easier to navigate that google groups.

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#18125

FromHugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com>
Date2012-12-20 02:05 -0800
Message-ID<0c1ddee3-2d60-41d6-b878-0936ba23fd2a@lb9g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>
In reply to#18119
On Dec 20, 12:50 am, the_gavino_himself <visphatesj...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Have you seen sunet and scsh? racket webserver? and awful by chicken scheme folks?  Scheme seems awesome.  blgo your progress?
>
> Is there a forth apps blog like cpan plus a forum kinda thing to talk about forth apps aside from usenet or is usenet the main thing?
> I find forums easier to navigate that google groups.

There are many ways to develop websites. Racket and Chicken are minor
players in that field. There are also many shells available for Linux.
SCSH is a minor player in that field. None of this has anything to do
with me, as I don't know anything about either website development or
Linux system-administration --- and I don't have any interest in
either subject.

My interest in Scheme is mostly for compiler-writing, which is a
subject that I do know something about, and is also something that
Scheme is particularly appropriate for.

I'm also interested in writing code to generate gcode for CNC
machines. I've done this in the past with Forth (and gotten paid for
it). Scheme would work pretty well for that. Other possibilities are
Lua and Cat. It doesn't really matter all that much which language is
used as the framework --- the primary criteria is that it is simple
and easy to learn, as most machinists don't have much programming
experience and even less interest in programming theory. Mostly what
is holding me back on that project, is that I don't have access to a
shop full of CNC machines at this time. I want to support at least a
lathe and a milling machine, although a 5-axis laser cutter would be
great if I could get access to that.

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#18065

FromMark Wills <forthfreak@gmail.com>
Date2012-12-18 05:12 -0800
Message-ID<38915c16-737e-4f43-bb4c-fdd7dc9b3e8d@17g2000vba.googlegroups.com>
In reply to#18045
On Dec 17, 10:26 am, the_gavino_himself <visphatesj...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> cmon forth!!!
>
> I cant even figure out howto get anything done in forth
>
> Iam more productive in shell or tcl
>
> what should I do?

Experiment with nuclear fission. It won't help you to write program,
but it will help us to write programs.

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#18068

FromBrad Eckert <hwfwguy@gmail.com>
Date2012-12-18 10:24 -0800
Message-ID<7ca802f3-1075-4926-a5af-249c5143f2e6@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#18065
On Tuesday, December 18, 2012 6:12:48 AM UTC-7, M.R.W Wills wrote:
> On Dec 17, 10:26 am, the_gavino_himself <visphatesj...@gmail.com>
> > what should I do?
> 
> Experiment with nuclear fission. It won't help you to write program,
> but it will help us to write programs.

"It was only a Tasmanain beer atom"
-- Yahoo Serious in Young Einstein

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#18070

Fromalbert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst)
Date2012-12-18 19:53 +0000
Message-ID<50d0c9a0$0$3105$e4fe514c@dreader34.news.xs4all.nl>
In reply to#18065
In article <38915c16-737e-4f43-bb4c-fdd7dc9b3e8d@17g2000vba.googlegroups.com>,
Mark Wills  <forthfreak@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Dec 17, 10:26 am, the_gavino_himself <visphatesj...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>> cmon forth!!!
>>
>> I cant even figure out howto get anything done in forth
>>
>> Iam more productive in shell or tcl
>>
>> what should I do?
>
>Experiment with nuclear fission. It won't help you to write program,
>but it will help us to write programs.

Seconded. Or fusion, whatever.
The earth is to end in a few days anyway.

Groetjes Albert
-- 
Albert van der Horst, UTRECHT,THE NETHERLANDS
Economic growth -- being exponential -- ultimately falters.
albert@spe&ar&c.xs4all.nl &=n http://home.hccnet.nl/a.w.m.van.der.horst

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