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| Started by | the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2012-12-17 02:26 -0800 |
| Last post | 2012-12-23 22:46 -0800 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 195 — 17 participants |
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any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-17 02:26 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Brad Eckert <hwfwguy@gmail.com> - 2012-12-17 08:37 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-19 13:27 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2012-12-19 21:27 -1000
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Spam@ControlQ.com - 2012-12-17 12:20 -0500
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-19 13:27 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Frank Thomason <Frank@Thomason.com> - 2012-12-17 13:34 -0500
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-19 13:28 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Frank Thomason <Frank@Thomason.com> - 2012-12-20 08:54 -0500
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-20 20:03 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-17 18:52 -0500
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-19 13:26 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2012-12-17 18:00 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-19 13:16 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2012-12-19 21:43 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-19 23:50 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2012-12-20 02:05 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Mark Wills <forthfreak@gmail.com> - 2012-12-18 05:12 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Brad Eckert <hwfwguy@gmail.com> - 2012-12-18 10:24 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2012-12-18 19:53 +0000
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-18 15:46 -0500
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-12-18 22:41 +0100
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-19 13:20 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Mark Wills <forthfreak@gmail.com> - 2012-12-18 23:31 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2012-12-18 23:57 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Mark Wills <forthfreak@gmail.com> - 2012-12-19 02:45 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2012-12-19 20:41 +0100
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-19 13:23 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-12-19 21:01 +0100
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-19 13:24 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-19 13:22 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2012-12-19 18:27 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-19 23:48 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2012-12-20 01:43 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-20 17:51 -0500
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-20 20:07 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-12-20 14:51 +0100
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-20 20:16 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2012-12-23 21:50 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-12-24 15:51 +0100
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2012-12-24 16:24 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2012-12-25 03:26 +0000
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2012-12-26 17:30 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? "A. K." <akk@nospam.org> - 2012-12-25 09:49 +0100
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2012-12-26 17:44 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-19 13:22 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-19 13:18 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Roberto Waltman <usenet@rwaltman.com> - 2012-12-23 11:57 -0500
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-23 14:29 -0500
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2012-12-18 23:24 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-19 13:18 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-19 13:17 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-19 16:26 -0500
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-19 13:29 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-19 17:11 -0500
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-19 23:45 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-20 17:59 -0500
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-20 20:22 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2012-12-21 12:59 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-23 21:54 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-24 00:59 -0500
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-23 22:23 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-24 01:48 -0500
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-21 16:34 -0500
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2012-12-21 13:55 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-21 16:59 -0500
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2012-12-21 15:39 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-21 18:43 -0500
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2012-12-21 15:50 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-21 19:01 -0500
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-23 22:05 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-23 21:57 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-24 01:00 -0500
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-23 22:25 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Mark Wills <forthfreak@gmail.com> - 2012-12-19 23:44 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-19 23:46 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2012-12-20 13:04 +0100
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-20 18:18 -0500
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2012-12-20 14:40 +0000
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-12-20 19:42 +0100
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2012-12-21 13:01 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-21 16:36 -0500
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2012-12-21 13:46 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2012-12-23 20:02 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2012-12-23 21:28 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2012-12-23 21:58 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-23 22:26 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2012-12-24 14:46 +0000
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-12-21 23:45 +0100
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-21 18:42 -0500
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-12-22 01:23 +0100
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-23 14:23 -0500
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-12-23 16:02 -0600
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-12-24 00:51 +0100
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-23 20:29 -0500
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-23 23:01 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-20 18:23 -0500
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-23 23:05 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-25 09:40 -0500
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-12-26 00:20 +0100
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-26 23:07 -0500
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-12-27 21:07 +0100
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Mark Wills <forthfreak@gmail.com> - 2012-12-27 12:48 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-27 16:42 -0500
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-20 20:24 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2012-12-21 13:24 -0800
The huge Gavino off topic thread was: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-21 16:57 -0500
Re: The huge Gavino off topic thread was: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-23 23:13 -0800
Re: The huge Gavino off topic thread was: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Mark Wills <forthfreak@gmail.com> - 2012-12-24 00:43 -0800
Re: The huge Gavino off topic thread was: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-24 10:34 -0500
Re: The huge Gavino off topic thread was: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-24 14:28 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-23 22:37 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-23 22:51 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Brad Eckert <hwfwguy@gmail.com> - 2012-12-20 08:27 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2012-12-20 18:44 +0000
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-12-20 21:37 +0100
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-23 22:34 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-24 01:47 -0500
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-23 23:18 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-12-24 15:53 +0100
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-24 14:26 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-12-25 00:09 +0100
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Mark Wills <forthfreak@gmail.com> - 2012-12-24 15:29 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-26 10:18 -0500
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? "A. K." <akk@nospam.org> - 2012-12-27 00:35 +0100
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-12-27 02:25 +0100
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? "A. K." <akk@nospam.org> - 2012-12-27 21:13 +0100
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-12-27 23:06 +0100
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? "A. K." <akk@nospam.org> - 2012-12-28 01:24 +0100
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-12-28 23:39 +0100
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? "A. K." <akk@nospam.org> - 2012-12-29 00:32 +0100
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-12-29 01:05 +0100
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? "A. K." <akk@nospam.org> - 2012-12-29 10:20 +0100
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-28 11:03 -0500
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-27 16:50 -0500
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-12-28 02:37 +0100
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? "A. K." <akk@nospam.org> - 2012-12-28 09:15 +0100
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-28 11:15 -0500
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-12-29 01:01 +0100
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-30 15:52 -0500
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-12-30 23:41 +0100
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-31 11:20 -0500
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? "A. K." <akk@nospam.org> - 2012-12-31 18:21 +0100
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-31 15:41 -0500
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? "A. K." <akk@nospam.org> - 2013-01-01 03:32 +0100
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2013-01-02 01:46 +0100
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-01-03 22:36 -0500
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Brad Eckert <hwfwguy@gmail.com> - 2013-01-08 08:25 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-01-08 12:46 -0500
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? gavino_himself <visploveslisp@gmail.com> - 2013-01-08 11:38 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Brad Eckert <hwfwguy@gmail.com> - 2013-01-09 08:19 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-01-09 17:52 -0500
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? gavino_himself <visploveslisp@gmail.com> - 2013-01-09 19:45 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-01-10 17:41 -0500
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? gavino_himself <visploveslisp@gmail.com> - 2013-01-13 18:29 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-01-14 09:29 -0500
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? gavino_himself <visploveslisp@gmail.com> - 2013-01-14 14:42 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-01-14 18:25 -0500
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? gavino_himself <visploveslisp@gmail.com> - 2013-01-22 14:55 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2013-01-22 17:43 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? "A. K." <akk@nospam.org> - 2012-12-31 01:38 +0100
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-12-31 02:54 +0100
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2013-01-05 03:17 +0100
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-01-08 21:23 -0500
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2013-01-10 03:44 +0100
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-01-10 18:03 -0500
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2013-01-11 02:52 +0100
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-01-13 17:11 -0500
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? gavino_himself <visploveslisp@gmail.com> - 2013-01-13 18:30 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2013-01-13 22:54 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-01-14 09:30 -0500
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? gavino_himself <visploveslisp@gmail.com> - 2013-01-14 14:42 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2013-01-14 15:58 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2013-01-15 02:02 +0100
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? gavino_himself <visploveslisp@gmail.com> - 2013-01-22 15:00 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2013-01-22 16:57 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2013-01-22 17:21 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-01-24 17:37 -0500
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2013-01-14 16:13 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2013-01-14 11:10 +0000
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-01-14 09:50 -0500
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-01-14 09:55 -0500
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2013-01-14 09:12 -0600
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2013-01-14 22:09 +0100
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-01-14 16:17 -0500
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2013-01-14 21:20 +0100
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-01-14 16:26 -0500
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2013-01-15 02:31 +0100
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-01-15 00:15 -0500
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2013-01-17 02:04 +0100
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? gavino_himself <visploveslisp@gmail.com> - 2013-01-22 14:57 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-23 23:15 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2012-12-20 17:33 -0800
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-12-21 17:09 -0500
Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2012-12-23 22:46 -0800
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| From | rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2012-12-24 00:59 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <kb8qva$7sq$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #18220 |
On 12/24/2012 12:54 AM, the_gavino_himself wrote: > On Friday, December 21, 2012 3:59:09 PM UTC-5, Jason Damisch wrote: >>> Atomic power is the way to go. Shoot waste into the SUN. Get NASA to be productive for a change. :) >> >> >> >> If you can do that, launch large amounts of waste into the sun, then you might as well put up Solar Power Satellites, and avoid the problem of nuclear waste altogether. I don't think you are thinking like a Forth programmer, drawing the shortest route from point A to point B. > > Well atomic is a proven power source not an academic theory. Yes, proven to create the worst pollution on earth. Rick
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| From | the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2012-12-23 22:23 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <f9119936-e236-4fed-ad48-893b98d54a12@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #18223 |
On Monday, December 24, 2012 12:59:03 AM UTC-5, rickman wrote: > On 12/24/2012 12:54 AM, the_gavino_himself wrote: > > > On Friday, December 21, 2012 3:59:09 PM UTC-5, Jason Damisch wrote: > > >>> Atomic power is the way to go. Shoot waste into the SUN. Get NASA to be productive for a change. :) > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> If you can do that, launch large amounts of waste into the sun, then you might as well put up Solar Power Satellites, and avoid the problem of nuclear waste altogether. I don't think you are thinking like a Forth programmer, drawing the shortest route from point A to point B. > > > > > > Well atomic is a proven power source not an academic theory. > > > > Yes, proven to create the worst pollution on earth. > > > > Rick Incorrect. The post processing France etc does is much better now and the rest can be launched at the sun.
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| From | rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2012-12-24 01:48 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <kb8tr5$jve$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #18226 |
On 12/24/2012 1:23 AM, the_gavino_himself wrote: > > Incorrect. The post processing France etc does is much better now and the rest can be launched at the sun. Loonyland city center, everyone off! Rick
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| From | rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2012-12-21 16:34 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <kb2kkn$8hp$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #18149 |
On 12/20/2012 11:22 PM, the_gavino_himself wrote: > > Your opinon of others lifestyle is irrelevant. You are not a dictator. Whe it comes back to money or sex then you see people's real values. Rest is chit chat. This is why its so important to limit power of politicians, because they will steal money without producing anything in the process. Capitalism is better because you have to temp someone with good product at good price. We don't have unregulated capitalism alas, if we did mass produced housing and elimination of government school and the follwing death of all non engineering n biotek school would make us all rich beyond our wildest dreams because henry ford and deming activities would be copied without restraint. > > Atomic power is the way to go. Shoot waste into the SUN. Get NASA to be productive for a change. :) > > You would not get cancer from an electric train. China has tons. Sorry, I thought you were talking about atomic trains like they showed in the magazines in the 50s. But otherwise, the rest of your stuff is pure nonsense. I see a parallel with your view of the Forth language. That and I also notice your apparent inability to trim the posts you reply to. Rick
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| From | Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2012-12-21 13:55 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <ab8f4e50-5ffd-4428-ae06-9aa7ae467674@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #18173 |
> > Your opinion of others lifestyle is irrelevant. You are not a dictator. When it comes back to money or sex then you see people's real values. Rest is chit chat. Do you think that everybody's values rotate around sex and money solely? This parallels the thoughts of left wing anarchists, who are anti-capitalist rather than capitalist. Yet both ( American ) Libertarians and ( Leftist ) Anarchists suppose that we are only physical beings and so the meeting of physical want's and needs are the only possible preoccupation. I will agree with the fascists in one regard, that is is possible for man to be a heroic being, that there is a spirit, and we can have goals and values other than our most base biological ones. I am not an atheist. So, I do not identify any longer with either the American version of Libertarians or with the Anarchists as both tend to be materialistic and atheistic. Rather I believe in an open ended somewhat chaotic multiverse without a defined single cause. I may be the only one on the planet to think so but anyway. The state is not sacred, but only the result of groups of people gathering together and using aggression to better themselves at the expense of others. Ultimately balance may need to be achieved through machine rule. Yet our computers are so primitive compared to the human brain and the mind that it may never be possible to replicate such intelligence. Futurism is Fun Jason
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| From | rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2012-12-21 16:59 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <kb2m3l$gin$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #18176 |
On 12/21/2012 4:55 PM, Jason Damisch wrote: > >>> Your opinion of others lifestyle is irrelevant. You are not a dictator. When it comes back to money or sex then you see people's real values. Rest is chit chat. > > Do you think that everybody's values rotate around sex and money solely? This parallels the thoughts of left wing anarchists, who are anti-capitalist rather than capitalist. Yet both ( American ) Libertarians and ( Leftist ) Anarchists suppose that we are only physical beings and so the meeting of physical want's and needs are the only possible preoccupation. I will agree with the fascists in one regard, that is is possible for man to be a heroic being, that there is a spirit, and we can have goals and values other than our most base biological ones. I am not an atheist. So, I do not identify any longer with either the American version of Libertarians or with the Anarchists as both tend to be materialistic and atheistic. Rather I believe in an open ended somewhat chaotic multiverse without a defined single cause. I may be the only one on the planet to think so but anyway. The state is not sacred, but only the result of groups of people gathering together and using aggression to better themselves at the expense of others. Ultimately balance may need to be achieved through machine rule. Yet our computers are so primitive compared to the human brain and the mind that it may never be possible to replicate such intelligence. > > Futurism is Fun > > Jason Do you realize that you replied to my message but quoted gavino without attribution? Makes it look like you are quoting and replying to me. Rick
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| From | Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2012-12-21 15:39 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <614fb598-f203-4d94-aedd-78c6d0a2591c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #18178 |
Rick > Do you realize that you replied to my message but quoted gavino without Rick > attribution? Makes it look like you are quoting and replying to me. Sorry
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| From | rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2012-12-21 18:43 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <kb2s76$i8t$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #18182 |
On 12/21/2012 6:39 PM, Jason Damisch wrote: > > Rick> Do you realize that you replied to my message but quoted gavino without > Rick> attribution? Makes it look like you are quoting and replying to me. > > Sorry > No need to apologize. I guess I asking you to do the attributions correctly. Does your newsreader not add them automatically? Does it add them the way you did in this response? Rick
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| From | Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2012-12-21 15:50 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <e41026ac-bc84-47a8-9a0b-2a0e059cbfaf@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #18184 |
On Friday, December 21, 2012 3:43:28 PM UTC-8, rickman wrote: > On 12/21/2012 6:39 PM, Jason Damisch wrote: > > > > > > Rick> Do you realize that you replied to my message but quoted gavino without > > > Rick> attribution? Makes it look like you are quoting and replying to me. > > > > > > Sorry > > > > > > > No need to apologize. I guess I asking you to do the attributions > > correctly. Does your newsreader not add them automatically? Does it > > add them the way you did in this response? > > > > Rick Well, I am using Google reader. What I left above is what it "likes" to do. I was cutting everything out including the top line, and just leaving the few lines of text I thought relevant. I just seems to add what might be called 'fuzz' . Perhaps in the future I will do this.... On Friday, December 21, 2012 3:43:28 PM UTC-8, rickman wrote: > No need to apologize. I guess I asking you to do the attributions > correctly. Does your newsreader not add them automatically? Does it > add them the way you did in this response?
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| From | rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2012-12-21 19:01 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <kb2t9j$o8g$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #18185 |
On 12/21/2012 6:50 PM, Jason Damisch wrote: > > Well, I am using Google reader. What I left above is what it "likes" to do. I was cutting everything out including the top line, and just leaving the few lines of text I thought relevant. I just seems to add what might be called 'fuzz' . Perhaps in the future I will do this.... > > On Friday, December 21, 2012 3:43:28 PM UTC-8, rickman wrote: >> No need to apologize. I guess I asking you to do the attributions >> correctly. Does your newsreader not add them automatically? Does it >> add them the way you did in this response? > I think that is what most people do here. Rick
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| From | the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2012-12-23 22:05 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <947f042e-3046-4943-a825-677b86a92b85@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #18176 |
On Friday, December 21, 2012 4:55:05 PM UTC-5, Jason Damisch wrote: > > > Your opinion of others lifestyle is irrelevant. You are not a dictator. When it comes back to money or sex then you see people's real values. Rest is chit chat. > > > > Do you think that everybody's values rotate around sex and money solely? This parallels the thoughts of left wing anarchists, who are anti-capitalist rather than capitalist. Yet both ( American ) Libertarians and ( Leftist ) Anarchists suppose that we are only physical beings and so the meeting of physical want's and needs are the only possible preoccupation. I will agree with the fascists in one regard, that is is possible for man to be a heroic being, that there is a spirit, and we can have goals and values other than our most base biological ones. I am not an atheist. So, I do not identify any longer with either the American version of Libertarians or with the Anarchists as both tend to be materialistic and atheistic. Rather I believe in an open ended somewhat chaotic multiverse without a defined single cause. I may be the only one on the planet to think so but anyway. The state is not sacred, but only the result of groups of people gathering together and using aggression to better themselves at the expense of others. Ultimately balance may need to be achieved through machine rule. Yet our computers are so primitive compared to the human brain and the mind that it may never be possible to replicate such intelligence. > > > > Futurism is Fun > > > > Jason I think that unregulated lassie faire capitalism is the way to go. Ayn Rand was right about everything except israel which to m is sand and usa welfare. I am polythestic since I think one or many myths are as good as any other. I aos respect the ideas of Henry George. In a free market everything reduces to sex and money. My meaning is that all your dreams of what and what isn't evaporate as soon as you ask someone to pay you. The money someone values your services at is reality. The other side of this is wen you want sex. The looks of who will willingly go to bed with you are a barometer of th reality of how you look and your attractiveness. Now you can override this with money, but then all bets are off. Without these factors to give you a signal as to how you are doing any dream in your head has no reference to reality. You could think of yourself as king of the goblins and the handsomest man on earth.
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| From | the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2012-12-23 21:57 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <5f4e7364-7145-4e79-b697-90d13511984a@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #18173 |
On Friday, December 21, 2012 4:34:06 PM UTC-5, rickman wrote: > On 12/20/2012 11:22 PM, the_gavino_himself wrote: > > > > > > Your opinon of others lifestyle is irrelevant. You are not a dictator. Whe it comes back to money or sex then you see people's real values. Rest is chit chat. This is why its so important to limit power of politicians, because they will steal money without producing anything in the process. Capitalism is better because you have to temp someone with good product at good price. We don't have unregulated capitalism alas, if we did mass produced housing and elimination of government school and the follwing death of all non engineering n biotek school would make us all rich beyond our wildest dreams because henry ford and deming activities would be copied without restraint. > > > > > > Atomic power is the way to go. Shoot waste into the SUN. Get NASA to be productive for a change. :) > > > > > > You would not get cancer from an electric train. China has tons. > > > > Sorry, I thought you were talking about atomic trains like they showed > > in the magazines in the 50s. But otherwise, the rest of your stuff is > > pure nonsense. I see a parallel with your view of the Forth language. > > That and I also notice your apparent inability to trim the posts you > > reply to. > > > > Rick On the contrary your posts are nonsense and you seem to have an insanely low iq spouting off this garbage.
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| From | rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2012-12-24 01:00 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <kb8r14$7sq$6@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #18221 |
On 12/24/2012 12:57 AM, the_gavino_himself wrote: > > On the contrary your posts are nonsense and you seem to have an insanely low iq spouting off this garbage. Wow, that is a very intellectual argument. There is nothing I can say in reply. Rick
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| From | the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2012-12-23 22:25 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <f033f639-ae40-4e3b-a8ca-da9513abd124@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #18224 |
On Monday, December 24, 2012 1:00:01 AM UTC-5, rickman wrote: > On 12/24/2012 12:57 AM, the_gavino_himself wrote: > > > > > > On the contrary your posts are nonsense and you seem to have an insanely low iq spouting off this garbage. > > > > Wow, that is a very intellectual argument. There is nothing I can say > > in reply. > > > > Rick This from the nitwit that makes sweeping statements of opinon and ad hom attacks, sigh.
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| From | Mark Wills <forthfreak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2012-12-19 23:44 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <ca0cde40-0639-4c7f-aa79-b2eca1333919@x20g2000vbf.googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #18098 |
On Dec 19, 9:26 pm, rickman <gnu...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 12/19/2012 4:17 PM, the_gavino_himself wrote: > > > > > I think USA should switch to atomic power. Safer than hydro and works unlike most green bs. > > Are you from the US? I don't want to start a big, off topic thread > hijack, but nuclear power has one, f'ing huge problem. No one has a > viable solution on how to deal with the waste. Solves the carbon > problem, but creates a longer lived one instead. > Search for Galen Winsor on YouTube and go watch the lecture he gave in the 80's. It's very interesting. I don't know much about the subject, so I'll not comment any further, but you might find his alternative view-point interesting. Galen Winsor designed reactor plants for GE. In fact, to save you looking, here are two very very interesting links: The Nuclear Scare Scam: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejCQrOTE-XA A Free Nuclear Economy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x42qi7Fz1L0 In the second video, from 1985 Galen explains the real science behind radiation disposal and nuclear energy safety. If it weren't for his background it would perhaps be very easy to dismiss him as a nut-job. As I say, I reserve judgement, but he makes some very interesting points. Hopefully you'll enjoy these videos if you get the time to watch them - perhaps you'll have a chance over the holidays! Regards Mark
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| From | the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2012-12-19 23:46 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <37094039-7809-44e5-b7d4-18e29b494a7f@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #18115 |
On Thursday, December 20, 2012 2:44:24 AM UTC-5, M.R.W Wills wrote: > On Dec 19, 9:26 pm, rickman <gnu...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 12/19/2012 4:17 PM, the_gavino_himself wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think USA should switch to atomic power. Safer than hydro and works unlike most green bs. > > > > > > Are you from the US? I don't want to start a big, off topic thread > > > hijack, but nuclear power has one, f'ing huge problem. No one has a > > > viable solution on how to deal with the waste. Solves the carbon > > > problem, but creates a longer lived one instead. > > > > > > > Search for Galen Winsor on YouTube and go watch the lecture he gave in > > the 80's. It's very interesting. > > > > I don't know much about the subject, so I'll not comment any further, > > but you might find his alternative view-point interesting. Galen > > Winsor designed reactor plants for GE. > > > > In fact, to save you looking, here are two very very interesting > > links: > > > > The Nuclear Scare Scam: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejCQrOTE-XA > > A Free Nuclear Economy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x42qi7Fz1L0 > > > > In the second video, from 1985 Galen explains the real science behind > > radiation disposal and nuclear energy safety. > > > > If it weren't for his background it would perhaps be very easy to > > dismiss him as a nut-job. As I say, I reserve judgement, but he makes > > some very interesting points. Hopefully you'll enjoy these videos if > > you get the time to watch them - perhaps you'll have a chance over the > > holidays! > > > > Regards > > > > Mark awesome!!!!
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| From | Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> |
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| Date | 2012-12-20 13:04 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1uy8nr9tbs00t$.x8ok2m43ze2a.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #18115 |
Op Wed, 19 Dec 2012 23:44:24 -0800 (PST) schreef Mark Wills: > On Dec 19, 9:26 pm, rickman <gnu...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On 12/19/2012 4:17 PM, the_gavino_himself wrote: >> >> >> >>> I think USA should switch to atomic power. Safer than hydro and works unlike most green bs. >> >> Are you from the US? I don't want to start a big, off topic thread >> hijack, but nuclear power has one, f'ing huge problem. No one has a >> viable solution on how to deal with the waste. Solves the carbon >> problem, but creates a longer lived one instead. >> > > Search for Galen Winsor on YouTube and go watch the lecture he gave in > the 80's. It's very interesting. > > I don't know much about the subject, so I'll not comment any further, > but you might find his alternative view-point interesting. Galen > Winsor designed reactor plants for GE. > > In fact, to save you looking, here are two very very interesting > links: > > The Nuclear Scare Scam: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejCQrOTE-XA > A Free Nuclear Economy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x42qi7Fz1L0 > > In the second video, from 1985 Galen explains the real science behind > radiation disposal and nuclear energy safety. > > If it weren't for his background it would perhaps be very easy to > dismiss him as a nut-job. As I say, I reserve judgement, but he makes > some very interesting points. Hopefully you'll enjoy these videos if > you get the time to watch them - perhaps you'll have a chance over the > holidays! > > Regards > > Mark It's a scam alright, I watched the first video (more than an hour long) and I had to restart my PC after some two minutes because is was completely blocked. The only referece of Galen Winsor is Youtube. Nothing in Wikipedia. Not that Wikipedia is the one and only law of Media and Persia, but still. -- Coos CHForth, 16 bit DOS applications http://home.hccnet.nl/j.j.haak/forth.html
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| From | rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2012-12-20 18:18 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <kb06cm$3ha$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #18115 |
On 12/20/2012 2:44 AM, Mark Wills wrote: > On Dec 19, 9:26 pm, rickman<gnu...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On 12/19/2012 4:17 PM, the_gavino_himself wrote: >> >> >> >>> I think USA should switch to atomic power. Safer than hydro and works unlike most green bs. >> >> Are you from the US? I don't want to start a big, off topic thread >> hijack, but nuclear power has one, f'ing huge problem. No one has a >> viable solution on how to deal with the waste. Solves the carbon >> problem, but creates a longer lived one instead. >> > > Search for Galen Winsor on YouTube and go watch the lecture he gave in > the 80's. It's very interesting. > > I don't know much about the subject, so I'll not comment any further, > but you might find his alternative view-point interesting. Galen > Winsor designed reactor plants for GE. > > In fact, to save you looking, here are two very very interesting > links: > > The Nuclear Scare Scam: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejCQrOTE-XA > A Free Nuclear Economy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x42qi7Fz1L0 > > In the second video, from 1985 Galen explains the real science behind > radiation disposal and nuclear energy safety. > > If it weren't for his background it would perhaps be very easy to > dismiss him as a nut-job. As I say, I reserve judgement, but he makes > some very interesting points. Hopefully you'll enjoy these videos if > you get the time to watch them - perhaps you'll have a chance over the > holidays! > > Regards > > Mark Sheeee-it! A hard one to view, very long download. But when someone starts talking about how energy will be too cheap to meter, I tune out. Why does it take an hour and a half to explain why the most dangerous substances on earth can be generated safely? Because they can't and this is most likely just a crap load of... well, crap! If I am wrong I'll happily eat my words. Maybe I can download it for later viewing, but I can't take the time now. Care to summarize his points? Here are mine... 1) Risk of nuclear accident may be small, but consequences are HUGE. Integral will never be small enough. But most won't care since they weren't affected... Fukushima is a good example, it didn't happen in the US and most power plants can be run over by a tsunami so no worries, right? 2) WTF do we do with nuclear waste that needs to be held for 1 million years?!!! To illustrate the significance of this, they are currently examining ways to mark the grounds around any future disposal site so that people can understand this is very dangerous stuff long after any current languages are forgotten! REALLY! Only Hugh's slide rules will still be around. Rick PS I just got a small dose of his talk and he mentions the Army manual regarding radiation exposure. The Health Physics Society got them to include a statement of "record your dose". He says if you don't have a sunburn, you don't have a problem... ok, one crackpot down...
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| From | albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) |
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| Date | 2012-12-20 14:40 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <50d32372$0$3098$e4fe514c@dreader34.news.xs4all.nl> |
| In reply to | #18098 |
In article <katbea$148$1@dont-email.me>, rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote: >On 12/19/2012 4:17 PM, the_gavino_himself wrote: >> >> I think USA should switch to atomic power. Safer than hydro and works >unlike most green bs. > >Are you from the US? I don't want to start a big, off topic thread >hijack, but nuclear power has one, f'ing huge problem. No one has a >viable solution on how to deal with the waste. Solves the carbon >problem, but creates a longer lived one instead. No, you can't say that about nuclear power as such. Nuclear fission power has a huge problem. In comparison nuclear fusion has few. If only people start to make the distinction. (For more than 100 years now people have realised that in the end the only solution to having unlimited energy is fusion. We may not need unlimited energy, and get by with using energy wisely.) > > >Rick Groetjes Albert -- Albert van der Horst, UTRECHT,THE NETHERLANDS Economic growth -- being exponential -- ultimately falters. albert@spe&ar&c.xs4all.nl &=n http://home.hccnet.nl/a.w.m.van.der.horst
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| From | Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> |
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| Date | 2012-12-20 19:42 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <24657494.ngkKD4eTXG@sunwukong.fritz.box> |
| In reply to | #18132 |
Albert van der Horst wrote: > No, you can't say that about nuclear power as such. > > Nuclear fission power has a huge problem. > In comparison nuclear fusion has few. Yes, one of them is that it doesn't work (at least for a reasonable amount of money and development time). Since it doesn't work, it also won't explode or create toxic waste. While we now, after more than 60 years of development, can create more energy than we have put in, we still haven't figured out how to take that energy out - currently, it just heats up the supercooled, superconducting coils. > If only people start to make the distinction. Oh yeah, the distinction is really great: We have two sorts of nuclear power. One that works, but occasonally explodes and we haven't solved the waste problem, and one that doesn't work, and its development is a constant and huge money sink. Let's go with the solution that doesn't work and sinks a lot of money. > (For more than 100 years now people have realised that in the end > the only solution to having unlimited energy is fusion. > We may not need unlimited energy, and get by with using energy > wisely.) We have a well-working fusion reactor 8 light minutes away. It supplies us with a constant flow of energy, and will continue to do so for the next 5 billion years, and the amount of energy we get from there is tremendous. All we have to do is to put some absorbers for that energy on our rooftops or on other unused land; and maybe build some long- distance high-voltage-direct-current lines around the world to avoid needing night-time storage. -- Bernd Paysan "If you want it done right, you have to do it yourself" http://bernd-paysan.de/
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