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Re: doing exercises for starting forth, kinda discouraging, some are easy and some seem text not prepare me for....

From "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@notemailnot.cmm>
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth
Subject Re: doing exercises for starting forth, kinda discouraging, some are easy and some seem text not prepare me for....
Date 2012-06-28 04:17 -0400
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"Bernd Paysan" <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> wrote in message
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> Rod Pemberton wrote:
...

<OT>

> > [...]
> > Many standardized tests are purely language or mathematics based.
> > Other times such tests are weighted heavily or biased towards memory
> > and recollection, e.g., names and dates, and not an ability to think or
> > solve problems.  Commonly, they fail to test musical and visual forms
> > of intellect.
>
> Most IQ tests simply test processing speed.  They present you a number
> of relatively simple problems, and you need to solve them in a limited
> timeframe.  This is a sort of "brain benchmark", none of the problems is
> particularly hard.  Problems are typically pattern matching in language,
> numbers and geometrical problems.  I haven't seen tests that are based
> on memory or recollection, and these things would be highly dependent on
> culture, something IQ tests strive to avoid.
>
> I don't think brain processing speed is an all-too-wrong metric.  But if
> you have some attention deficite or memory loss, fast processing speed
> won't help you to gain knowledge or wisdom.
>

I don't see why "brain processing speed" is a valid metric at all.  It seems
completely worthless to me.

Why should someone who thinks slowly, but can solve difficult problems be
devalued?  Yes, there are plenty of people who can think quickly and solve
difficult problems.  There are also plenty of people who can think quickly,
but can't solve difficult problems at all.  So, why should an uncapable
quick thinker be considered to be smarter than a capable slow thinker?
I.e., the time consumed by an individual to solve a problem seems to have no
correlation with the _ability_ of one to solve problems.


Rod Pemberton




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