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Re: doing exercises for starting forth, kinda discouraging, some are easy and some seem text not prepare me for....

From	John Passaniti <john.passaniti@gmail.com>
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Subject	Re: doing exercises for starting forth, kinda discouraging, some are easy and some seem text not prepare me for....
Date	2012-06-29 12:12 -0700
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On Thursday, June 28, 2012 7:04:11 PM UTC-4, Rod Pemberton wrote:
> You responded to him encouraging him to prove his genius.

Yes, as have others.  It kind of naturally flows from when someone claims they are some flavor of genius, but who have not demonstrated anything to support that claim.

> Yes, I agree it's "inconsistent with [your] observable reality".

Again, does that imply you sense something I don't here?  Can you point to any aspect about anything gavino has written-- past or present-- that suggests to you brilliance.  If you can, I'd love to see it.  If you can't, then it appears it is also inconsistent with [your] observable reality.  Welcome to the club.

> The premise goes to determining the nature of _why_ 
> his claims matters to you.  [...]

False premise.  They don't matter.  I comment on many things that don't matter to me.  I comment on you, for example.  And I do this because it amuses me.

> The issue is why you claim my premise is false.  

Primarily because it comes from the faulty assumption that merely responding to someone implies that someone "matters."  It may be the case that you suffer from only responding to others that in some sense matter to you.  But you are invited to not assume you are the template for humanity.  Oh god, please don't let you be the template for humanity.

> I only asked if you though he was a liar, but didn't 
> state so.

I have no evidence that gavino is telling the truth.  If he suddenly starts writing messages that indicate or even suggest some kind of genius, I am more than happy to accept that he is.

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doing exercises for starting forth, kinda discouraging, some are easy and some seem text not prepare me for.... quiet_lad <gavcomedy@gmail.com> - 2012-06-25 14:09 -0700
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Re: doing exercises for starting forth, kinda discouraging, some are easy and some seem text not prepare me for.... John Passaniti <john.passaniti@gmail.com> - 2012-06-26 06:08 -0700
Re: doing exercises for starting forth, kinda discouraging, some are easy and some seem text not prepare me for.... Mark Wills <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-06-26 06:23 -0700
Re: doing exercises for starting forth, kinda discouraging, some are easy and some seem text not prepare me for.... Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2012-06-26 10:18 -0700
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Re: doing exercises for starting forth, kinda discouraging, some are easy and some seem text not prepare me for.... "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@notemailnot.cmm> - 2012-06-26 20:17 -0400
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Re: doing exercises for starting forth, kinda discouraging, some are easy and some seem text not prepare me for.... quiet_lad <gavcomedy@gmail.com> - 2012-06-27 14:11 -0700
Re: doing exercises for starting forth, kinda discouraging, some are easy and some seem text not prepare me for.... quiet_lad <gavcomedy@gmail.com> - 2012-06-27 14:28 -0700
Re: doing exercises for starting forth, kinda discouraging, some are easy and some seem text not prepare me for.... "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@notemailnot.cmm> - 2012-06-27 19:00 -0400
Re: doing exercises for starting forth, kinda discouraging, some are easy and some seem text not prepare me for.... Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-06-28 01:46 +0200
Re: doing exercises for starting forth, kinda discouraging, some are easy and some seem text not prepare me for.... "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@notemailnot.cmm> - 2012-06-28 04:17 -0400
Re: doing exercises for starting forth, kinda discouraging, some are easy and some seem text not prepare me for.... Mark Wills <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-06-28 02:31 -0700
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Re: doing exercises for starting forth, kinda discouraging, some are easy and some seem text not prepare me for.... quiet_lad <gavcomedy@gmail.com> - 2012-07-10 21:13 -0700
Re: doing exercises for starting forth, kinda discouraging, some are easy and some seem text not prepare me for.... "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@notemailnot.cmm> - 2012-06-28 04:14 -0400
Re: doing exercises for starting forth, kinda discouraging, some are easy and some seem text not prepare me for.... marko <marko@marko.marko> - 2012-06-28 21:08 +1000
Re: doing exercises for starting forth, kinda discouraging, some are easy and some seem text not prepare me for.... quiet_lad <gavcomedy@gmail.com> - 2012-06-29 14:04 -0700
Re: doing exercises for starting forth, kinda discouraging, some are easy and some seem text not prepare me for.... "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2012-06-29 12:20 -1000
Re: doing exercises for starting forth, kinda discouraging, some are easy and some seem text not prepare me for.... "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2012-06-28 08:39 -1000
Re: doing exercises for starting forth, kinda discouraging, some are easy and some seem text not prepare me for.... John Passaniti <john.passaniti@gmail.com> - 2012-06-28 12:51 -0700
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Re: doing exercises for starting forth, kinda discouraging, some are easy and some seem text not prepare me for.... John Passaniti <john.passaniti@gmail.com> - 2012-06-28 12:34 -0700
Re: doing exercises for starting forth, kinda discouraging, some are easy and some seem text not prepare me for.... "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@notemailnot.cmm> - 2012-06-28 19:04 -0400
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