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Re: Copyright issues with Forth200x draft

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Rod Pemberton wrote:

> 1a)
> "1.3.2. Annexes"
> "Annex G presents a test suite to test the operation of a system complies
> with the definitions documented in this standard."

I read this as saying that the Test Suite in Annex G is an example set of 
code which demonstrates compliance but which is not required to be run to do 
so and you can write your own tests if you wish to.

> 1b)
> "G.3 Core Tests"
> "... A standard system should pass all of the tests within this suite.
> ..."
> 
> How are either of those *NOT* a requirement to pass all the tests?

Do you not get the difference between "should" and "shall"? The latter is 
the more imperative element.
 
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> 3) The meaning of what is "required to comply with a specification"
> thereby allowing use of material within a specification without copyright
> infringement is entirely up to the reader.  Except for the quotes above
> which support my perspective, I haven't located other statements within
> the specification that would provide a clarification of what is required
> to comply with a specification.  So, it'll be exceptionally difficult for
> anyone to prove otherwise in a court of law.  I.e., where is the statement
> to the effect of: "Passing of the tests in Annex G is *NOT* required for
> compliance with this specification."  I think you would need that to
> prevent use of the tests in the way I previously described, or the law
> language equivalent.

The standard authors should, I agree, be very clear of their intentions with 
respect to the requirements of the tests for proving compliance.

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Copyright issues with Forth200x draft "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@notemailnot.cmm> - 2012-08-03 18:36 -0400
  Re: Copyright issues with Forth200x draft Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-08-04 03:02 +0200
    Re: Copyright issues with Forth200x draft "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@notemailnot.cmm> - 2012-08-06 00:54 -0400
      Re: Copyright issues with Forth200x draft Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-08-06 04:11 -0500
        Re: Copyright issues with Forth200x draft Mark Wills <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-08-06 02:35 -0700
      Re: Copyright issues with Forth200x draft "Paul E. Bennett" <Paul_E.Bennett@topmail.co.uk> - 2012-08-06 20:34 +0100
        Re: Copyright issues with Forth200x draft "Ed" <invalid@nospam.com> - 2012-08-08 15:59 +1000
          Re: Copyright issues with Forth200x draft Mark Wills <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-08-08 01:07 -0700
            Re: Copyright issues with Forth200x draft Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-08-08 03:47 -0500
              Re: Copyright issues with Forth200x draft anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-08-08 10:47 +0000
                Re: Copyright issues with Forth200x draft Mark Wills <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-08-08 06:38 -0700
                Re: Copyright issues with Forth200x draft Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-08-08 09:10 -0500
                Re: Copyright issues with Forth200x draft Mark Wills <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-08-08 08:23 -0700
                Re: Copyright issues with Forth200x draft Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-08-08 11:06 -0500
                Re: Copyright issues with Forth200x draft Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-08-08 09:08 -0500
                Re: Copyright issues with Forth200x draft anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-08-08 14:29 +0000
                Re: Copyright issues with Forth200x draft Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-08-08 10:46 -0500
                Re: Copyright issues with Forth200x draft anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-08-08 16:19 +0000
                Re: Copyright issues with Forth200x draft Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-08-08 11:44 -0500
      Have "experts" been consulted? - was [Re: Copyright issues with Forth200x draft] Richard Owlett <rowlett@pcnetinc.com> - 2012-08-06 15:16 -0500
        Re: Have "experts" been consulted? - was [Re: Copyright issues with Forth200x draft] Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2012-08-06 16:05 -0700

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