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Re: Copyright issues with Forth200x draft

From anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl)
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth
Subject Re: Copyright issues with Forth200x draft
Date 2012-08-08 14:29 +0000
Organization Institut fuer Computersprachen, Technische Universitaet Wien
Message-ID <2012Aug8.162954@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> (permalink)
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Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> writes:
>Anton Ertl <anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> wrote:
>> Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> writes:
>>>We haven't seen very much ambuguity, and not in any cases that a test
>>>suite could sort out.  Or have we?  I can't remember any examples.
>> 
>> Just recently an issue came up again about whether EVALUATE is allowed
>> to copy the input string elsewhere and interpret it there.  The Hayes
>> test suite checks that the system does not do that and this
>> interpretation has been supported by the the TC in RFI 6
>> <http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/forth/dpans-html/a0006.htm>.
>
>In which case the specification is now clear, isn't it?  I'm not
>saying it is unambiguous.

I don't understand what distinction you are trying to make here.  The
original specification is as it was, there is now an official
clarification/interpretation.  Together they clarify this particular
issue.

Anyway, it seems to me that this refutes your claim that "We haven't
seen very much ambuguity, and not in any cases that a test suite could
sort out".  Note that the clarification came about by an
implementation tripping over a Hayes test, and the implementor then
asked the TC about this issue.  If we did not have this Hayes test,
this clarification probably would not have happened, and maybe this
implementation would still copy the EVALUATEd string.

- anton
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Copyright issues with Forth200x draft "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@notemailnot.cmm> - 2012-08-03 18:36 -0400
  Re: Copyright issues with Forth200x draft Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-08-04 03:02 +0200
    Re: Copyright issues with Forth200x draft "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@notemailnot.cmm> - 2012-08-06 00:54 -0400
      Re: Copyright issues with Forth200x draft Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-08-06 04:11 -0500
        Re: Copyright issues with Forth200x draft Mark Wills <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-08-06 02:35 -0700
      Re: Copyright issues with Forth200x draft "Paul E. Bennett" <Paul_E.Bennett@topmail.co.uk> - 2012-08-06 20:34 +0100
        Re: Copyright issues with Forth200x draft "Ed" <invalid@nospam.com> - 2012-08-08 15:59 +1000
          Re: Copyright issues with Forth200x draft Mark Wills <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-08-08 01:07 -0700
            Re: Copyright issues with Forth200x draft Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-08-08 03:47 -0500
              Re: Copyright issues with Forth200x draft anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-08-08 10:47 +0000
                Re: Copyright issues with Forth200x draft Mark Wills <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-08-08 06:38 -0700
                Re: Copyright issues with Forth200x draft Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-08-08 09:10 -0500
                Re: Copyright issues with Forth200x draft Mark Wills <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-08-08 08:23 -0700
                Re: Copyright issues with Forth200x draft Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-08-08 11:06 -0500
                Re: Copyright issues with Forth200x draft Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-08-08 09:08 -0500
                Re: Copyright issues with Forth200x draft anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-08-08 14:29 +0000
                Re: Copyright issues with Forth200x draft Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-08-08 10:46 -0500
                Re: Copyright issues with Forth200x draft anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-08-08 16:19 +0000
                Re: Copyright issues with Forth200x draft Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-08-08 11:44 -0500
      Have "experts" been consulted? - was [Re: Copyright issues with Forth200x draft] Richard Owlett <rowlett@pcnetinc.com> - 2012-08-06 15:16 -0500
        Re: Have "experts" been consulted? - was [Re: Copyright issues with Forth200x draft] Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2012-08-06 16:05 -0700

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